119 points

You can improve your google search results by using DuckDuckGo instead.

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103 points

To be honest it’s still a crapshoot of SEO bs.

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18 points

Which is basically Bing.

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76 points

I really wanted to like DDG, but its results returned are so horribly unusable, I had to give up.

I’m usually searching for something obscure, but add in general terms for general refinement. DDG will ignore my obscure term (the thing I’m actually looking for) and give me pages of results of the general terms. Using special operators doesn’t help. Whereas Google will give me at least a few relevant results using the same search terms.

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16 points

I get the same pattern of ignoring obscure terms in both Bing and Google. Bings results include some that seem to assume I made a typo and Google includes a some sites that are just alternates that are the equivalent of ads.

I remember five or so years ago when both could at least return some relevant results anytime I used more than a few words.

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29 points

Yeah I gave duck duck go another shot the other day and it was FAR and away worse than google. Considering how bad Google has been lately I was impressed (and disappointed) by how much worse DDG was.

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4 points

I’ve been digging Kagi. It does cost money, but it’s a small price to pay for the return of my sanity. I was constantly frustrated by Google results a hundred times per day before I switched to Kagi.

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Yeah I don’t know why DuckDuckGo keeps getting recommended as much as it does.

I couldn’t find on Google, the answer to a simple question the other day. All I wanted to know was the precooked weight of a particular fast food restaurant’s patty.

I made it to page 3 of the Google results, wading through page after page of promotional content, news releases, and sponsored “news-style” articles that were thinly veiled ads.

Decided to visit duck duck go, and was greeted with search results that were even worse than Google.

I realize it’s only one example, but to me it was an example of a search so specific, its egregious that the search engines simply refuse to return a page with the answer.

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No. DDG sux.

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2 points

Tried, kept returning to Google for “real” searches

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28 points

Nah, DDG is arguably worse than Google now with their search results - I just ended up going back to Google after a couple of years of using DDG.

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13 points

Didnt go to google but I hate ddg now

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0 points

Bing it is then

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11 points

DDG for me was always a matter of exchanging a bit of convenience for a bit of freedom. The results are usually a bit poorer (or extremely poorer if websearching in Italian or Portuguese), but at least it isn’t vulturing my data.

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9 points

Fuck ddg, turning into wht they sought to destroy

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It go so much worse lately it’s on par with Google. I’m out of search engines tbf

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3 points

Same

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2 points

I just tested it out by typing in “Sonic the hedgehog fanart”. For once, I was able to get some decent images without being bombarded by uncanny valley ai-generated images of Sonic wearing Rouge’s outfit or poorly-drawn inflation art. So it seems to be off to a good start.

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3 points

OK wasn’t my imagination then.

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4 points

Trying Searx currently.

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2 points

Didn’t Searx lose support and maintenance?

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1 point

No.

Especially with non-English stuff. Let’s be realistic here

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27 points

Its really not much better

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3 points

s/DuckDuckGo/Kagi/

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23 points

If you really want good search results, check out Kagi.

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7 points

Do you use it? How good are the results on rare topics?

I’d be willing to pay for an actually good search engine, but most engines I check give subpar results to google. It’s fine to use a privacy focused search engine for easy searches, but I don’t want to pay for one that will still require me to use google for anything complicated or super specific.

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I use Kagi for everything, and use DDG and Google as backup searches. Usually, if Kagi didn’t get me what I want, others won’t either. I still prefer using multiple engines when looking into certain things, and that’s no fault of Kagi.

Best feature IMO is personal ranking and DenyListing. For example, I can downrank Microsoft.com from my results, uprank StackOverFlow, and block CNet from my results. I can also downrank or block SEO nonsense sites from my results. I use this feature carefully, because I don’t want to create my own bubble, but some sites are empirically terrible quality

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There is a 100 searches trial which oddly enough is actually plenty. It was a very good experience but I wish there was a cheaper plan to be fair

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7 points

Kagi is good, but for rare topics try search.marginalia.nu

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56 points

5 euros for only 300 searches a month. That’s ridiculous

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11 points

Yeah kagi looks quite good to me but I just can’t justify their asking price.

3€ / month for unlimited searches is probably as far as Id go. Hopefully they find a way to lower prices in the future and capture a wider audience.

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2 points

I switched to yearly billing recently and it’s a bit cheaper that way.

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5 points

You’re apparently worth something like $40/month to Google.

So they’re already at a competitive disadvantage to services where you are the product and not the customer.

Stuff’s not free.

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I guess that’s not really possible at the moment because kagi sources their data from other providers where each one of them charges by usage. They’re banking on their users to not search as much so they can be profitable, which means they’re incentivized to make their search result good so their users won’t repeatedly search same topics over and over.

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7 points

Honestly, I thought the same! I primarily use DDG, but when that doesn’t cut it, I go use my Kagi free trial of 100 searches. It’s lasted me months at this point, which is a testament to DDG and Kagi tbh. DDG for getting me there 99% of the time, and Kagi for delivering on the rest, with the bonus of being customizable and privacy focused. When the trial runs out, I will likely purchase the lowest tier so I can mix it in more bc the result quality is truly higher and it actually LISTENS to my quotes and + & - terms. You may not do as many searches as you think, and for throwaway searches, DDG is probs good enough.

Im a dev & my entire job is googling shit basically, so it’s worth it for me to get quality results without dealing with the bullshit AI SEO wasteland

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5 points

I’ve been pretty happy with the $10/mo plan. And I really wasn’t planning on using past the first month originally.

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2 points

I wish it was $5 for 300 searches, or even 150 searches. I really don’t like that it’s a subscription for limited searches, why can’t I pay per search?

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2 points

What’s wrong with this price for a tool you use multiple times every day?

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11 points

The reincarnation of Marie Antoinette over here

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62 points

Oscar winners 2024 before:2023

(It actually ends up being useful because many of the results seem to come from pages created earlier but updated now)

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2 points

Qwant seems to be doing pretty good with search results

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Qwant is bing minus ads. No seriously it’s just licensed bing results.

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Hmmm I never thought I’d say Bing was doing an ok job then. I was using ddg, then searxg but qwant seems to be best right now

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Is there a browser extension for this yet?

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