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Answer questions if I can

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This + I like to just give people answers. I find too often online somebody will ask a question and a lot of users will often try to be helpful but fail because they didn’t actually answer it.

Dumb example Q: “What’s the best Indian food in this city?” A: “There’s not a whole lot of Indian food but you might have luck with a burgeoning southeast Asian store”

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If people would interact with others as they would do face to face. For whatever reason, we are so quick to forget the person at the other end. You’ll see people complain or discuss real people with literally no empathy and it can be mind boggling at times.

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This is sadly so true. I think part of it too is that text is a poor medium for expression at times. For example, it’s harder to read sarcasm.

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I find this to be less of a problem in less formal spaces. When typos, capitalization, and memes all get incorporated into the dialect, sarcasm and other nuance comes across much more readily. See also: Tumblr.

I suspect that sort of dialect wouldn’t be as comprehensible here though, because of the greater diversity in demographics here than Tumblr or my small closed group chats with friends. Here on Lemmy, I try to mitigate this by giving the benefit of the doubt and never ever feeding the trolls.

(Does downvoting a troll count as feeding it, because it gives them attention? I don’t want to risk it, so I usually pass them by, but I’m curious as to people’s consensus here.)

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If people would interact with others as they would do face to face.

Man, I’d never say anything online if I did that.

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Part of the challenge of social media is that it leads you to interact with many more people than you ever could in normal life.

While the vast majority of people are delightful, there are significant numbers of people with whom I wouldn’t want to interact, either face-to-face or online.

One thing I should get better at is avoiding engagement with those people online who I wouldn’t benefit from interacting with.

I don’t talk to the crazy person ranting on the street, why would I do it online?

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6 points

Absolutely.

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This is precisely the problem, yes. As a mod in my one sub, this is most often the only time I had to intervene – when the tone of the conversation got rude, insulting, disrespectful. I would always think to myself, “Is that how you’d talk to that guy in person??”. Mind boggling, indeed.

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Downvoted unkind discourse.

Upvote is for quality. No vote is for noise/disagreements. Downvote is for hate.

In theory, the lower a score, the less people see something. If I disagree with something that’s said (like a civil political opinion), then I won’t ‘like’ it. That takes away one potential point. But if someone is being unkind to others (mean, rude, trolling, etc) then I’ll downvote, which I see as removing two votes. The one they could have had from me, and one from someone else. Hopefully, that means they won’t get as much attention.

If it’s really bad, then I’ll also report

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Upvote is for quality. No vote is for noise/disagreements. Downvote is for hate.

Yep. This, I think, “is the way”. The downvote for disagreement is not a good pattern and probably never was IMO. This is a good way of putting it. Another way someone else put it was essentially that the downvote is about the way in which something is said and the upvote is about whether you agree with it.

I honestly think separating them out in some way, so that we can still use the downvote as an effective tool of aggregating the quality of a post, but not in a way that is simply there to offset upvotes. Like, maybe two “scores”, number of upvotes and number of down votes with different filters for each? In a way, the “controversial” sort achieves something like this.

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37 points

If i have something bad to say, i don’t.

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35 points

I block and never talk to the nazis.

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