61 points

Your favourite movie is absolute garbage and is only liked by tasteless philistines. The plot is obvious, the actors are hamming it, the direction is bland, and everything looks fake and pompous.

My favourite movie, on the other hand, is a masterpiece with a clever scenario, excellent and subtle acting, a work of genius by the director and the technical team. And one of the best soundtracks, too (it’s Universal Soldier)

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15 points

You really have to love the fact that people are getting downvoted in this thread for their own fucking opinion…

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1 point

Dude I’ve all but forgotten about this. For whatever reason, I loved this movie when I was younger. I also got it constantly mixed up with another similar movie that came out around the same time like Hollywood enjoys doing, but enjoyed Universal Soldier more.

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50 points

Barbie.

I’m a woman and a feminist. I’m a fan of Greta, and of everyone they cast in that movie.

I was bored for most of it. The parts that were meant to be poignant, I thought completely missed the mark. It was a waste of an opportunity.

I don’t understand the hype. Margot is a gem, one of our exports I’m actually impressed by, and I think her unfailing charm won a lot of people over to this. I think most of us would happily watch Margot read the phone book.

But I found the movie to be dull and shallow in its attempts for depth.

I feel bad because most of my female friends really hold it up as something I don’t think it is. I keep my mouth shut.

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14 points

I was in the same page as you, but I think I understood it at the very end, literally at the last scene. I understood that the message is something along the lines of “women should be allowed to be just women, without anything remarkable about them”. It kinda just tries to make that point, right? Women are just people. They are not objects, nor super heroes. They don’t need to be special.

The main goal of feminism is equality right? Well, women today are asked to be a lot of things that men are not asked to, to be exceptional, to break their chains, and fight. To be better than they are now, to change and fight back. And all that is exhausting, sometimes you just need to go to your ginecologist, not change the world. And that brings you happiness and fulfillment. Leave women to be whatever they want to be, don’t put on them YOUR expectations, let them be free. Stop telling women how they should live their lives, let them pick whatever they want. They are just humans. Men are allowed to be regular humans with flaws and virtue, women are not.

I think that’s the message, or I completely missed the point there lol. I don’t think it’s not deep. You could argue that maybe it’s a message a little dangerous, sure. A very individualistic message, even alienating, but what would you expect from something financed by capitalists. The revolution will not be televised. Personally, I found it a little refreshing, sometimes it feels like we are changing one social mandate for another, but in the end we cannot choose freely anyways, just obey. I gave me one or two thing to think about.

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12 points

Those messages came through to a degree (good write up by the way) but to my mind they didn’t go far enough. Then the comedy was so light touch too.

It all just felt like a first draft of something that might have been hilarious, entertaining and thought provoking. But didn’t land any of those things well. So I thought, couldn’t it have picked one of the 3 and done then well?

When the credits rolled I just said ‘k’. Because I didn’t really take anything away from it. Even without the hype for months, my expectation was built more by the cast and director. So I was just disappointed. I wasn’t even entertained.

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4 points

Oh, I’m totally with you there, there were about 2 or 3 jokes that I enjoyed, and every thing else was kinda bland. I think I was overhyped.

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13 points

I’m not sure if was meant to be “deep”, I think it was meant to be a bit satirical and a lot of tongue in cheek. I don’t think they were setting out to make a masterpiece, but a sharp take on mid life crisis and societys demands of women, including the monotinization of their escapism driven by corporate (men) stooges.

I’m not sure what opportunity was missed in a movie about capitalism utopia as portrayed by glamour dolls.

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8 points

I’m not sure what opportunity was missed in a movie about capitalism utopia as portrayed by glamour dolls.

Set ups for the punchlines that seemed to come out of nowhere, even a hint as to why having Barbieland go back to a matriarchy was better than something balanced to follow up on the whole Kens being second class citizens. Not that I wanted to spend more time on the Kens, just like a line or two that addresses the weird situation that they explicitly set up.

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5 points

The movie became a culture war wedge issue, you just couldn’t have an intelligent discourse about it in movie critic terms.

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5 points

It had some good parts, but the ending kinda felt like everyone just boxing up their genders again as the status quo instead of being a society that valued people for more than just their genitals. I kept waiting for the part where they realized equality was what they should strive for to help lead the human world in the best direction.

The queer-coded Allen felt a bit on the nose for 2023, too. I liked parts of it, but it felt very…20th-century feminist and straight to appeal to larger audiences.

I think the part with Margot and the grandmotherly lady at the bus stop was my favorite part. Peaceful, sweet, and exactly where the movie felt like it was heading in a good direction (in addition to the heaven and tearoom scenes). The musical parts were a great reminder of the movies from long ago, and also a great step in the right direction.

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1 point

I liked Allen so much. Only cool character that isnt overacting

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4 points

I’m a man but have the same take, excited about everyone involved and the themes and the style, but it just kind of limped its way through the stereotypical story with a lot of preaching at the audience. My wife actively hated it and didn’t even finish it, bailing out when the mom went on her rant about how unfair everything is which was true but executed really badly.

I did really enjoy Kate’s Crazy Barbie or whatever. If the rest of the film had that kind of nuance and comedic timing it would have been fantastic.

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31 points

Superhero films

I’m a massive fan of suspending my disbelief in a fantastic fantasy world, still have no interest in superhero films.

They’re so incredibly predictable, I can get the same from the trailer as watching the film.

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2 points

I want a marvel movie where the entire movie is just an insurance adjuster’s life in superhero NYC where the entire city gets destroyed every 1.5 years due to alien sea turtles and two men punching each other through buildings and such.

The insurance premiums would be insane. The insurance agencies would have to be massive and get constantly bailed out. People would deliberately try and live in the ugliest places they could to avoid the carnage (and later lawsuits).

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2 points

Maybe the superheroes should be required to get public liability insurance to cover the impact of their adventures.

Or

Maybe this accounts for their popularity, the greatest fantasy is a world not defined by capitalist considerations!

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27 points

Oh boy.

Everything everywhere all at once.

And I did like it to a point but absolutely don’t see it as the phenomenon that was presented as. I saw it as a good film that lacked nuance and subtlety, instead of leaving stuff for the viewer to discern it rather just loudly announcing with bright signs ‘This is profound, we are very artistic’. While the quirkiness and comedy were fun, it always felt to me like if marvel had suddenly decided to make an indie film, with all the good and bad that carried.

Obviously I was shunned by everybody else so what the hell do I know lol.

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2 points

Thank youuuuuu. Totally agree. It was a fun contemporary king fu movie with some great visual effects. Everyone I spoke to about it thought it was a groundbreaking masterpiece.

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2 points

Very good take. I wached it based on the hype. It is ok

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2 points

I think that Hollywood wanted that film to be really popular because they were tired of Marvel movies being all over the box offices.

I agree that it was…like okay, but I think most of the Marvel movies were like okay.

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2 points

Same! For me, it was an ok action/fighting movie. There is a message there, but the message itself is not as deep as people want it to be, and nothing new. It was just OK.

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1 point

Very good take. I wached it based on the hype. It is ok

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25 points

Skyfall. The whole film rests on a basically omniscient villain, which made it boring as fuck.

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10 points

I hate it when a big franchise or series ends up making the entire story revolve around the personal life of the protagonist.

For me the appeal of Bond was this unknown secret agent uncovering some big bad plot from some bad guy we knew little about art the start. I want it to be about uncovering the conspiracy and finding a way to stop it against all odds.

I do not want it to be able Bond’s relationship with his mother (or mother figure).

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2 points

imho the best Bond script was 'From Russia, With Love." Other movies have better stunts and action, but FRWL is the only one that manages to make Bond a person without getting maudlin.

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