Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers::Lyft and Uber threatened to stop doing business in Minneapolis after the city council adopted a new rule Thursday that would set a minimum wage for rideshare drivers.

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Oh no! Businesses whose ‘innovation’ is doing end runs around labour law, leaving? How sad.

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And whose business plan is to use VC money to undercut existing taxi services and drive them out of business so that they can increase prices to a profitable point (and beyond!).

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I have little sympathy for the taxi companies. They were terrible at what they did for so long. I can still remember the last two taxi rides I had in my life.

Me stuck a 5 minute drive from work. Every cab company I call wants 40 dollars and only in cash. Why? Because it crossed a town and county line. It took 4 calls before I found one that would take plastic.

A year later going to the airport and I am fighting a migraine. No AC, cab was filthy, ads are blasting, and smelled. Hey can you turn off the advertisements? I can’t. Buddy I have a really bad headache can you please turn it off? I can’t do that. I will give you five dollars to turn it off. It goes off.

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Yeah, it wasn’t like the taxi industry was all sunshine and flowers before Uber existed. I cheered them on in the fight for a while before realizing they weren’t my champion but just wanted to replace the existing taxis with their own and had to hike up prices eventually because they were losing tons of money in the meantime.

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The “labor laws” you reference only exist to give taxi companies monopolies and provide worse experiences for everyone involved

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You mean exist to ensure the underpaid actually get the legal minimum wage and to stop exploitive rich people from exploiting poor people?

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But it isn’t like a lot of taxi companies didn’t do the same thing to their workers.

In most parts of the US, restriction of the number of taxis came from issuing a limited number of medallions. The owners of these medallions effectively became rentseekers, renting out their medallions to drivers. The system was rife with abuse.

Part of the main issue now is that a lot of small rentseekers got taken over by two big ones.

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Uber drivers don’t make less money than taxi drivers. On average, they make about the same.

Taxi: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-TAXI-CAB-Driver-Salary-by-State

Uber: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-UBER-Taxi-Driver-Salary-by-State

Uber drivers aren’t “poor” lol.

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Still better than the ‘gig economy’. If making worker’s lives more precarious makes your life better, fuck your life.

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The gig economy is less precarious for the people that choose it because it fits their schedule. That’s why they choose it. Jobs aren’t exactly hard to get right now - they’d do something else if they wanted to.

Also uber drivers don’t make less money than taxi drivers. On average, they make about the same.

Taxi: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-TAXI-CAB-Driver-Salary-by-State

Uber: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-UBER-Taxi-Driver-Salary-by-State

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There’s nothing preventing Uber, Lyft, or any other company from charging realistic rates to pay drivers a minimum wage. But if Uber or Lyft do this, their rates end up being more than traditional taxis, so the question is why

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Uber and lift drivers make more than minimum wage, and make basically the same income as taxi drivers, so I’m not sure what you’re even saying here.

They cost less than taxis because they have less overhead.

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Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.

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If your business can’t afford to pay a living wage it shouldn’t exist.

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Uber was notorious for moving into and operating in certain cities illegally.

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*all cities

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Not all, they were kicked out from Hungary - although that was less a victory of workers’ rights rather than that of the taxi driver union.

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A victory for a union is a victory for workers rights.

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I noticed when I visited Vancouver, BC there were no uber’s or lyft’s available, however - uber eats was available. And most restaurants I walked past had uber eats signs in the windows saying they did delivery. And this was in like 2018

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Every argument in this thread is basically taxi protectionism.

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Yup. And now the founder is rich when he really should be in jail.

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