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Since she stopped caring for patients, there has been 1 death in 7 years. There were 6 in the year while she was on duty.

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Sorry

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4 points

Fixed!

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I don’t know if it shows on this photo and I just can’t see it (Lemmios cuts photos off for some reason) but I read somewhere else that the nurse after Lucy that was there for the most attempted/murders were there for just 7 of the 25.

About the murders stopping, it occurred to me that if she were being set up, that would be the perfect time for the real murderer to stop - after someone else had been arrested. Clearly my latest criminal minds re-binge if affecting my brain though - so much evidence points to her it’s beyond unlikely that this is a set up/conspiracy.

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Hey, Lemmios developer here, what do you mean by cutting off images? It’s a known bug (I’m not sure that’s the right word because it’s working as intended just looks odd when people embed images in the body of a post) that Lemmios will only show the begging of a text post in the main feed, but once a post is clicked on there shouldn’t be any cut off images? The image loads fine for me and I would love a screenshot of it getting cut off if you can?

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Sure. Here’s an example from a post I made to !badrealestate if you want to check it in out yourself.

The first photo from the post is normal. The second photo I’d added to the “body” part of the post and it’s absolutely giant.

You can’t “scroll” on the massive photo either. That’s why I wasn’t sure if I was seeing the whole photo OP posted. I’m one of your beta testers if that helps, still using the beta and it’s updated automatically.

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Other nurses shared 1,2,5,2,6,2,6, and 5 shifts out of the 17 murders and attempted murders during her shifts.

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Geez the judge told the jurors that they would never have to serve jury duty again because the case was so traumatic. I don’t even want to imagine what everyone involved went through.

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tbh, i don’t think it’s common to do more than one jury service in your life anyway. My dad is gone 60 and he has only done one recently. i’m 30 and have not done one

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Both my dad and partner have done it twice, each time for less than two weeks. I think the jurors in this cause were further excused because of the sheer length of the trial, rather than because the evidence they had to consider was particularly gruesome. Obviously a premature baby serial killer is gruesome, but I think jurors are usually excused from serving again if the trial has been so horrific that they’re offered counselling or something. It’s very very rare for a trial to take more than 6 weeks.

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I’m in my 30’s and have been summoned for jury duty multiple times, but never actually served as one.

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I’m 30s. Don’t know anyone who’s done it.

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Wow. How horrible do you have to be to murder health premature babies?

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Based on the writing pictured in the article, she was seriously mentally ill.

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It’s telling that throughout the entire article, neither the author nor the quoted individuals make a single mention of the personal and societal importance of mental health.

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I think the BBC has a policy of not reporting a suicide, but for something like this it’s absolutely relevant.

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I think that could be guessed without seeing the writing in the article as well, though obviously you’re right.

Some killers are just psychopaths/sociopaths (like Ted Bundy) but the vast majority have some serious problems which have unfortunately been missed or more likely hidden and she’s received no help for them leading to… This. It’s awful.

I work in a hospital. Management should have been all over this but it sounds very much like they didn’t want any trouble so ignored it as much as possible.

Staff should have one to ones with their managers including checking up on their welfare which is done properly could have picked up on something in the killer’s behaviour or mental health which wasn’t right.

Wards should have high standards of monitoring and if there’s an unexpected death the reason why should be fully investigated. If there was any room for doubt they should have at least escalated it to into an independent internal investigation - it’s not like there were a lot of potential suspects.

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Guilty verdict not a surprise after reading about the case earlier this year. Having a nurse on the wards supposedly looking after the most vulnerable babies in hospital and instead killing them is every parents nightmare.

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I always wonder, how many single-time murderers are there for every serial killer? Like how many nurses, doctors or other people with an opportunity just took and murdered once. How many people might get away with that?

Every serial killer has his first kill … but how many people have a first kill and then think … nah, I’d rather not do that but don’t get caught.

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I want the say that I saw a statistic saying that murder clearance rates were only about 50%. That coupled with wrong conviction rates makes one wonder.

I genuinely don’t know if that’s true or not though.

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I once had an off duty officer threaten me by mentioning the low rate of solved, and even lower convicted, murders.

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That’s the kind of thing the FBI is interested in hearing. Please report it.

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Jesus wept… I’m going to take a punt and guess this was in America?

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I mean… it’s pretty much impossible to know how many undiscovered murders there are. Yes, you can do autopsies on everyone who’s declared dead and then figure out how many of them were killed, but there are a lot of ways to kill a person that won’t show up in an autopsy, especially in a hospital setting.

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You can kill someone in healthcare without it being murder. People just expect some people to die.

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Accidents happen if course. If it was a preventable accident it could potentially be classed under incompetence, which is kind of the medical version of manslaughter depending on the situation. But proving that would probably require another professional whistleblowing on a colleague.

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