Former Indiana governor and candidate for Republican nomination tells Fox News decision ‘should come as no surprise’

Mike Pence will not endorse for president Donald Trump, the man he served as vice-president for four years but whose supporters chanted for Pence to be hanged as they attacked Congress on January 6.

“It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year,” the former Indiana governor and former candidate for the Republican presidential nomination told Fox News on Friday.

Asked why, given that he previously promised to endorse the eventual nominee, Pence mentioned 6 January 2021, the day a mob attacked Congress and Trump was reported to have told aides Pence “deserved” to be hanged for refusing to block certification of Joe Biden’s 2020 election win.

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His brother did…

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So glad he finally grew a spine. There’s hope for paralyzed people everywhere.

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To hell with that.

It’s only growing a spine if it risks costing you power, pence has none and is losing none. Glad he came out against the fascist, but all that might indicate is some small, at least partial return to and recognition of the rational world. He’s patting himself on the back about how virtuous this may make him seem in history, nothing more.

A sitting Republican Congressperson or party official with no intention of retiring would be demonstrating bravery coming out against the fascist.

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All true. He probably feels smug about keeping his mouth shut for this long.

I hope history remembers him for continuing to orate with a fly crawling around on his face :-)

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Fyi, I didn’t mean to diminish your joke, I just had a pedant moment, apologies.

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Credit due for Pence consulting Dan Quayle and getting sane advice. I’m no fan, but I’ll give him that much.

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“Hey man, can a VP just decide who is the next president? No? Damn, I guess I won’t, then.” So brave.

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It’s insane how low the bar is for Republicans to be given credit. Doing his job as VP and certifying a lawful election shouldn’t earn him any praise. Not endorsing the man who sent an angry mob to stop him from doing his job shouldn’t earn him any praise.

This is not a man who “grew a spine,” it’s a pile of wet napkins that got slightly more dry.

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He should have used the 25th amendment on Trump on January 6th. His cabinet was fleeing like rats shortly afterwards, so he probably could have gotten a majority of them to sign on.

It would have saved his legacy and his party. He could have done so much good, but he chose not to.

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It’s only be a spine if he gets out there and basically campaigns for Biden. If he asks any remaining same conservatives to abandon the Republican party and join the Democrats, until the Republicans wither and die and the Democrats split into a sane pair of parties that can disagree but compromise like it used to be.

But he won’t do that. None of them have so far.

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That’s the fucking wild part. Even the few that kind of pitched a little fit on the way stopped short of a good “Look at yourselves, look at what you’ve become!” Type thing.

I don’t know if it’s a matter of future employment prospects or if they are all really ready to embrace fascism before conceding they broke the system… but it’s sad.

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They only hate Trump, they love Trump’s agenda.

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This is like when eary life evolved a soft-tissue that resembled a spine. It wasn’t a spine, but it resembled one.

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Never thought I’d think of a “notochord” in reference to politics, but here we are.

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As an aside, I love how ‘notochord’ sounds when it is pronounced. It has a good flow.

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It’s not real unless it happens to them.

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Just a big, thick, flaccid, spine-like structure?

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I would hope not after the Trump mob tried to hang Pence. What even is this timeline.

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not only that, but ask yourself why it was important that he “know” (and trust) the driver of his escape car?

he was afraid trump would disappear him.

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LOL, assassination wasn’t in the cards. These idiots thought the process would break if the VP wasn’t present. For what amounts to a formality.

It’s all so dumb and horrific. Shit gave me PTSD and now I know what “triggered” truly means. I can’t watch 60-seconds of video without getting my AR out the safe, checking it, and leaning it on my desk. Talked about fucked up…

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And yet, “I know you, I trust you, but I don’t know him” I’d more or less a direct quote from pence about why he refused to get in the truck

Maybe it was in the cards, maybe it wasn’t. Doesn’t change the fact that he believed it. (And also knew that getting him away was already a backup plan. Remember they wanted to hang pence for not going with plan a)

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I’m usually on board with you, but I think “disappear” is a bit too far at that stage. More likely it was “sheltered in a secure location” or “sequestered at Andrews AFB,” but either way not to return to Chambers so Grassley could take over and throw the certification to a House vote.

At that stage they’d need the legitimacy of Pence being alive and safe, but unable to perform duties due to the unrest. Hammer and anvil.

Dispose of him later when things are done & dusted with the new regime installed.

Um… Just speculating.

What??

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Either way, getting in that truck meant getting dead.

He already refused to play ball. They weren’t going to let him off again.

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it looks like all these people would be ruining their whole careers by doing some of these things, I wonder if a standardly randomized IQ test and public results shoud be a thing for US public servents

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Hard no. We’re not “testing” people for public office. Smells too much like testing for the vote.

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We are not no, and look how well it is working. I get that doing things that is unfair is unfair but this point is to me more fair, not less.

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Let’s ignore all the bias in IQ tests and how they are not a valid measure of intelligence.

This is based on the premise that these people aren’t smart. The scary thing to realize is that they are very smart people. They are using that intelligence in a concerted effort to advance their agenda and power.

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