“This ‘groundbreaking’ AI proposal that they gave us yesterday, they proposed that our background performers should be able to be scanned, get one day’s pay, and their companies should own that scan, their image, their likeness and should be able to use it for the rest of eternity on any project they want, with no consent and no compensation. So if you think that’s a groundbreaking proposal, I suggest you think again.”

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Can we replace the studios execs with AI instead?

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We’d probably get better movies like That.

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That will put cocaine dealers out of work.

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and ruin the economy’s of most of central/south america

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Sounds like they want to put actors out of work, while painting it as a good thing. Ai is already at the point where it’s being exploited by the wealthy to fuck the poor even more, and it needs to be legislated. Nip this bullshit in the bud.

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What examples can you give where the rich is fucking the poor by using AI right now?

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Artists were the first to take a hit. Then you’re gonna lose writers people who write game dialogue and such, you’re gonna lose service people, etc. Those are all ways the rich are trying to make the poor obsolete

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How is AI fucking the poor? It’s just preventing the pseudo-wealthy from keeping up with the actual-wealthy.

I have no sympathy for either group.

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Then you obviously don’t know how a movie is made and who is involved. Once you have a full AI movie, you won’t need any of the hands on set that definitely aren’t rich… Grips, caterers, assistants, makeup, wardrobe, etc. Those aren’t “pseudo-wealthy”. They’re working a 9-5 to make ends meet.

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*Since those jobs can’t pay enough what’s wrong with replacing them with AI? Then they wouldn’t be working in such poor conditions.

Maybe they could learn to code to be prepared for ‘Jobs of the Future’

Once you AI has the ability to make “movies” then everyone will have the chance to make their own, something few people have the ability to do now. Isn’t that gain much higher than a catering company closing?

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They’re not doing it to ‘make ends meet.’ That implies they’re struggling to survive, not thrive.

Maybe once they start getting screwed over by copyright and patent laws, they’ll stop advocating for them.

Then we can have AI movies, real movies, and any blend of the two. Only problem is nobody can use the government to protect their ideas.

It will result in cheaper products and services all around the world, at the expense of those making way too much money right now.

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Isn’t this already covered with the Back to the Future 2 lawsuit? They can’t use an actors likeness without thier explicit permission. Just because it’s “ai” doesn’t make it any different, ai is just a SFX.

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The explicit permission would be in the new labor agreement, I think…

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True, good call. I completely spaced on that. Pretty shitty thing to do. “You know that thing that’s illegal for us to do? Put it in the contract that we can do it!”

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SFX

VFX, SFX are things that are actually happening on Set.

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Aw Hell No! Actors should setup a trust for their image likeness that lives on forever. If Hollywood every uses their likeness the fees go into that trust.

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SAG-AFTRA president Fran Drescher said that “If we don’t stand tall right now, we are all going to be in trouble, we are all going to be in jeopardy of being replaced by machines.”

Can’t stop smiling now that I know what Fran Drescher has been up to :-)

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Thankfully not audio work.

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She is not in any way the first person I would expect to be president of SAG-AFTRA. Maybe she’ll be president one day. It happened before.

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