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They have a very different view of what constitutes an unsafe space, for the last day or so every time I saw a username with pronouns my whole body would tighten up anticipating some randomly aggressive attack post. I hate that they made me feel that way about something that should be good. I will not miss them.

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One of them made a post on Egg_irl with Astolfo which seems to be almost saying that they think Femboys and GNC are just trans girls in denial. Really didn’t sit well with me since I know that that kind of think is very hurtful to Femboys and has been very hurtful to me as well as an Agender.

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Removed at your request

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Edit: hexbear is currently down so I can’t, I’ll remove the post as soon as hexbear comes back online

I just looked and Hexbear seems to be back up but they now have a blocked list and lemmy.blahaj.zone is on it. Seems they defederated from us.

Edit 2: hexbear is still not coming back up so I’ll report the post on this account and ask the mods to delete it, sorry for any discomfort I caused you

All is forgiven 😉

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OH whew thank you, I thought it was just my VPN that had gotten blocked. I wasn’t able to see any of the hexbear links.

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3 points

Uninvolved 3rd party, but I just wanna commend your thoughtfulness here

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3 points

iirc, deleting the post from hexbear would not have done anything, defederation affects any interaction with blahaj

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I had a blahaj person make a similar response to a message of mine a few weeks ago, before hexbear was even on the radar. I just rolled my eyes and may have sent some sort of “wow, what a dumb take” response or something.

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55 points

I could not be more relieved.

On the one hand, it sucks that there is a rift between communities who seem to have genuine care for LGBTQ issues. However, through the past day, being exposed to Hexbear’s community and content has made me extremely concerned.

Hexbear’s server content is full of great big red flags. Even a brief skim through some top posts and comments showed a lot of content I found alarming. There are posts denying genocide, calls to violence, blatant Russian propaganda, apologists galore for authoritarianism, and the constant assurance that anyone not agreeing with these ideas was obviously a Fascist. And this was all wrapped in what I can only describe as a weird layer of smug superiority - that they are the only ones who “get it”. I don’t have a high opinion of any community that seems to think having the a word like “tankie” applied to them is problematic while accepting the previously mentioned content as okay. To make matters worse, a lot of Hexbear user’s I’ve seen in other communities posting, it is often antagonistic if not just straight-up trolling. I just don’t see the value in any of this.

I just wish we had become defederated sooner and not been exposed to a community that seems to be so rife with arrogant, extremist trolls that are hell-bent on stirring up drama.

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Damn, I’m not one for drama but Holy shit their comments on that thread are fucked up, they seem like a really toxic and unhealthy bunch of people.

We’re generally better off without extremists who’s only defense to anything they don’t like is attacking others and badmouthing them.

It really shows their general character and maturity levels.

Also, it seems like there are a lot of other instances asking mods for defederation due to toxicity.

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Yeah, the comments are bad, I clicked on the link out of curiosity. I think I got my weekly dose of online slurs for the week.

Also an interesting “safe space”. A “safe space” to be unhinged in which names you call others that don’t agree with you and been cheered on for doing so.

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44 points

I think the fact that they’re fully defederating over accusations against a single community instead of just blocking that community is telling.

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I’ll take blahaj over HB in a heartbeat, but Ada did the exact same thing to lemmynsfw.

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24 points

Jesus can you stop whining about lemmynsfw

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24 points

Nope. And especially in this instance as it is directly refutes the praise that the op was giving. Sorry, programming won’t let me keep quiet on hypocrisy.

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I’m not sad about the outcome (it definitely helps me not getting too horny on main;) but the parallel is not completely unwarranted.

I hope we learned from the nsfw fiasco, as I hope they learned from the 196 fiasco.

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You cannot leave me because I’m leaving you, well that situation solved itself. That said I am concerned about 196.

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They exited on mutual agreement I guess

Well technically not mutual agreement until/unless we also defederate from them. Which I still am in support of.

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Isn’t it funny how there were no complaints until there was a post here asking about defederation?

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What chaser things have I defended?? I’m trans I don’t see how I could be a chaser and I don’t even know what I could do to earn the title. It seems like this post was never brought to our attention, because we check every report we receive and remove the ones that should be removed. What we don’t check, however, is every post as we do not have the mod numbers for that. We can only see what you guys bring to our attention through reports.

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17 points

People are so caught up with hating hexbear users that the whole 196 mod drama is probably going to be overlooked. I’m waiting to see the statement from our instance mods before deciding if this place is really for me

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What sort of statement? Except for the ableist comments that occurred last night when I was sleeping, everything else in that post had been actively addressed long before hexbear was on the scene.

The issues around ableism occurred when I was in bed, and I addressed them first thing this morning, removing the content in question and sending comms to the person in question making our standards clear.

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Thank you for addressing that.

I was expecting a statement about mod integrity on 196 and Moss leaking DMs to start drama, but after sleeping on it I think that some of the issues raised by HB are somewhat disingenuous (e.g. the transphobia cited). I still have concerns about the maturity of the 196 mod team though.

For what it’s worth, this whole situation just shows how good of an admin you are. For that I don’t think I’m leaving

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The issues around ableism occurred when I was in bed, and I addressed them first thing this morning, removing the content in question and sending comms to the person in question making our standards clear.

Thank you :)

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10 points

if that screenshot of the mod log isn’t leaving out important context then this looks pretty bad, hexbear users aren’t alone in seeing a decent amount of reactionary language and talking points here in the past few weeks. in all fairness tho most of it probably isn’t intentional

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7 points

Yeah I’m all out. I’ll keep modding my art and nsfw comms (though they’re somewhat inactive) but that’s as far as I’ll go.

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6 points

I’m out of the loop. Whats going on with the mods on 196?

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This contains the most recent issue: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1989401

There was also leaking DMs, subtle transphobia / chaser issues (a bit like the reddit 196). If you read the hexbear post they have screenshots

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Read the hexbear post in the OP, they explain it pretty well.

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