I was recently talking to some friends about Lemmy and the whole Fediverse idea, as it seemed like a really cool part of the Internet. As I was talking about it, though, I realized how unusually friendly this whole place is, and I joked that I “surprisingly haven’t found any bigotry.”
I’m wondering if anyone has come across that, by any chance. If it’s rare, my guess is that even though it’s decentralized, each instance has a set of rules and values that are shared throughout the Fediverse, and I’m guessing it’s easy to defederate with any seedy communities haha.
I’m an admin for a relatively busy instance, so I see all of the bigotry, and there is more of it than I’m comfortable with :\
There’s a lot of bigots out there that have moved over from reddit.
I suspect that your instance attracts those sort of person, just trying to rattle someone :(
A little, but most of it isn’t even targeted at our users. Lots of the stuff I see is just stuff reported by our users, in communities that have nothing to do with us specifically.
Otherwise … and I’m essentially quizzing you here, so feel free to ignore me
Do you think lemmy/kbin’s relatively poor and insufficient moderation tooling is partly to blame for what you’re seeing?
Do you think that the communities based structure make this sort of thing more likely to be bad or problematic?
I’ve personally been wondering this and wanted to ask you precisely this but didn’t because I figured it’d be rude. I hope it’s going ok!?
But yea, it unfortunately makes sense that the reddit migration would have brought over more “mainstream” rubbish.
This, plus what’s happening over on Threads and the arguments here about the fedipact etc, for me, have seriously raised the prospect that as much of a critique can be leveled at the culture often (and pejoratively) dubbed “HOA” etc, actually being protective of a culture to the point of coming off as “gate keeping” etc has real world value.
Maybe that’s why I’m enjoying lemmy more: No access to reports and removed comments.
It’s interesting, we’ve got blahaj.zone itself, and even though it doesn’t have as many users as our lemmy instance, we’re lucky if we see a report every couple of days over there.
The microblogging fediverse is more aggressively opposed to queerphobic bigots I think, so they never get a chance to take root over there, but here on the threadiverse, lots of them fly under the radar of admins that aren’t the targets of their bigotry
lots of them fly under the radar of admins that aren’t the targets of their bigotry
General note: as a mod and admin who may not know what to look for, please flag these posts and comments so that we can review.
I wonder how your experience differs from mine, being on an instance with no downvotes.
Gotcha. I haven’t been in the loop with beehaw and shitjustworks and everything like that, but I could picture that kind of drama happening.
The Threads stuff is also hella wack, people seem to have a ton of heavy opinions about it.
I do think the ability to filter different communities and stuff out is really valuable. I’ve had a few friends who (understandably) had pretty negative opinions on Reddit long before the API stuff, but I think a big part that they missed is how easily you could curate your Reddit feed, which made my experience much better. I did delete my Reddit account, but I wouldn’t find it unreasonable to believe that Reddit’s fairly the same way it was before the protest since lots of people still stick around and are just casual users who don’t care too much (and I don’t really blame them haha).
A comment on my other account got brigaded by tankies a while ago. Was told to “fuck off, liberal”
But then that guy got banned from the instance, and everything was good.
Short version? Mix and match the following:
- Pro Xi Jinping
- Pro Joseph Stalin
- Pro Mao
- Pro use of tanks against civilians as in Tiananmen Square in 1989 or Hungary in 1956.
- Pro Vladimir Putin
Basically a tankie is any apologists for government violence against civilians – usually by claiming something like, “those weren’t real civilians. That was a color revolution. The government of [authoritarian regime] responded with no more than the necessary amount of force. Western propaganda is making it look more violent than it was in reality.”
From Wikipedia
The term “tankie” was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring uprising, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.
Yeah theres a few too many genocide apologists hanging around, but (just to spite them) i dont want them to be banned. Its better they stay here and see the light
Yeah if they’re banned then they’ll go back to their bubble saying they’re being silenced, but how can you silence someone who’s not contributing to the conversation?.. I’m fine with different opinions, but I don’t understand people who think the way to convince someone of your viewpoint is hostility. Telling someone to “fuck off” with no reason is just toxic. Once might be a bad mood/state of mind (happens to the best of us), but repeat offenders shouldn’t be allowed to keep harassing others.
I think everyone I’ve encountered has been very polite. Well, except the one person who said my crochet project looked like Chewbacca shit. Jokes on them - i didn’t buy the wookie yarn; i bought the Groot yarn and they just can’t tell the difference.
Yes, I discussed with an andrew tate fan that asked “why do people get angry when I don’t respect pronouns of trans people” or something to that effect, a real shit stain but I think he got banned after a few hours
