We just want good complete micro transactionless games

Edit: that are also well optimized

70 points

…did they think people wanted bad d&d games? Of course people want great games of their favorite hobby, what does this even mean

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If I read between the lines I hear " We are going to try to milk this new cash cow"

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I thought it was like: we found out it can be profitable to take the time to make a high quality product. At least when Larian is doing it.

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21 points

I really hope you’re right

Also be fine if Larian just goes with Pathfinder or their own IP next time. Hasbro can fuck right off.

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I read it this way as well. Even if I didn’t trust Larian as a company (I do), it’s pretty clear that taking the time to make a high quality product worked out really well for them.

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Considering there were rumored to be several games in the pipeline that all got scrapped at the beginning of last year, I think you’re right. Dark Alliance didn’t do great so I’m sure the execs freaked out.

Hopefully you’re right about the message they received.

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I mean Lego finally came out with an official DnD Lego set that looks awesome.

I know others have used Legos as minis and battlemaps, but I think it’s cool that they’re officially acknowledging it.

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2 points

Lmao I honestly so hard at this, but honestly they were probably thinking “what’s the lowest fucking bar we have here?” And instead this success told them that a little more investment might actually have better returns

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65 points

That simply isn’t true, I think. A game based on Pathfinder made by Larian would most certainly do better than anything they could pump out based on D’n’D without Larian. It’s Larian and Baldur’s Gate specifically who got more recognition, not D’n’D as whole.

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Anyone who played Larian’s previous titles can tell you the only thing DnD brought to the table was a popular IP.

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And it was used to great effect. There’s a ton of good stuff in the D&D mythos that can be made into other solid games.

Hasbro will fuck it up, I agree, but the potential is undoubtedly there.

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Yeah I agree. They deserve a lot of credit for elevating D&D rather than relying on it to elevate the game. The result is greater than the sum of its parts; both D&D and Larian reached a wider audience through the collaboration.

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5e combat is better than their garbage elemental system from Divinity. Stopped playing that shit after the tenth flight with necrofire covering the entire battlefield.

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that is an extremely debatable, incredibly hot take. i wasn’t a fan of cloud and surface spam but lets not pretend that 5e’s combat is universally loved, either. larian made it work pretty well by sanding off some edges here and there but it’s, at best, a sidegrade.

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53 points

Hasbro? The ones who sent gones to someone’s house and fuck them up because they accidentally got a pre release version of magic the gathering? Yeah they probably will fuck it up.

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21 points

Not goons, Pinkertons, like Wild west union busting Pinkertons.

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13 points

Continuing to be amazed that the Pinkertons both still exist and are still up to their old tricks. Nothing is ever learned.

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10 points

Yeah them, thanks forgot there actual names.

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12 points

They sent the god damn Pinkertons

The overtly evil FBI wannabes that are in the the Red Dead games

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because they accidentally got a pre release version of magic the gathering?

It was a streamer that got the pre-release boxes early by mistake, and live-streamed opening them to drive traffic to his channel. Most cards aren’t revealed ahead of time so these leaks let potential pre-buyers see what was in the set and decide if they wanted it.

What he did was stupid, but he did nothing wrong, and nothing especially harmful.

Calling the Pinkertons on him was obscene on principle, but it was especially egregious when the damage was so minimal. They hurt themselves more with that stunt than the leaks hurt them.

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Don’t just say “goons,” say Pinkertons. Actual literal union organizer murdering Pinkertons. Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast sicced those Pinkertons on a children’s card game reviewer for the crime of telling people about something they received in the mail.

In other news, 5e.tools is a great resource containing all official 5e content, in a convenient easily navigable website. Personally I prefer the mobile interface, but the desktop is great too.

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There’s also a Pathfinder 2 version for those inclined.

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The fantastic thing about Pathfinder is that all the rules are released to the public, so things like this are completely legal, and thus we get a lot more of them than D&D gets. We’ve got Pathbuilder for creating character sheets, as well as the Pathbuilder encounter builder for GMs (as well as numerous other character and encounter builders—I just like these because they integrate with each other), Archives of Nethys for a very user-friendly rules reference, and on and on and on.

In D&D you have to rely on expensive tools with special deals with WotC (by the gods I hate Beyond and their double-dipping “pay a fixed price for content and a subscription for app features” business model—though the creators behind Beyond have gone ahead and done the same thing for Pathfinder with Nexus, if you happen to like their UX) or ones willing to basically pirate content and hope that WotC’s lawyers can’t get it taken down, like 5e.tools.

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30 points

Too bad they fired all of the liaisons on the Hasbro side. Oopsie

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A lot of people are focusing on the D&D part but honestly what the people really want is for any and all studios to take the time they need so they can release non-buggy, higher quality games.

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