I understand why they did what they did and it makes me think of how db0 and other admins are saying fuck all and taking a very big liability for making and supporting a free internet and i want to say all the work you do is very much appreciated. Also shoutout to lemmy.ml admins for running a similar community on their own .

Links for supporting the db0 server and do consider donating as it is running behind on expenses.

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I will never defederate from y’all ❤️

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OT, that’s a very nice UN and instance name you have!

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Thank you! I started the server as a random project right after I left Reddit and shredded all of my posts. I’m pretty sure I’m the only active user but that’s okay by me. It’s a little money out of my pocket to give both myself and others refuge from social media and all of the enshitification.

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Don’t mention it! Your reasoning and mindset is so very heartening, I hope you’ll get more active users, they’ll be in good hands for sure. Instance owners like your self, db0 are a treasure. 👌

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Here’s the donations links from on the sidebar mateys. The server is currently is not covering its hosting costs ;)

EDIT: Removed since they’re in the OP now

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Added to the post .

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What are the current hosting costs? Every cent counts, but how much do y’all need?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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The ko-fi page has that info i think.

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check the ko-fi. It shows how much progress we have to cover the costs until June

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Man, I didn’t realize there were only 22 people supporting you monthly.

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53 of us are on Patreon too

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I didn’t realize there was a patreon, I made a Ko-fi account just for this.

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Being defederated by lemmyworld is a badge of honor. Keep up the good work!

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Nah, I disagree. They are running a large community in the middle of Europe, in plain view and being personally known, and as such, liable. Adhering to applicable laws and regulations is the sensible thing to do, plain and simple.

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They are running a large community in the middle of Europe, in plain view and being personally known, and as such, liable.

skill issue

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That makes it even worse. Imagine putting in all this effort and taking all this supposed risk to create a new social media platform free of the pitfalls that come with a for profit site like reddit only to slowly adopt the exact same corporate friendly code of conduct while purposefully curating a community of annoying shitheads who are nearly indistinguishable from the horde of cretins on reddit.

If making a new reddit is legitimately the best they can do, then they should absolutely just scuttle the entire project.

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Honestly even Reddit is better. Reddit still has a r/piracy

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he’s a real VIKING of following the rules written by rich people!

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Feels like .world is defedding from errybody. Eventually theyre gonna be like aol (or some other more recent, relevant walled garden).

Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?

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Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?

You mean as opposed to their stated reason: DMCA?

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I’m talking about the broader implications of meta integration being the possible driving force behind the multiple defederations, not specifically this, the latest, which would be included as part of a larger “cleanup”.

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Awesome username, BTW

I think (as their open communications on the subject have indicated) that they prefer to keep their legal liability profile slim. In the end, no matter how many users you have in your instance, you’re still alone in that court room against the monopolies that represent content rights holders.

From what I can tell they (at least the older admins and Ruud) seem to have no love for Meta, but they aren’t chicken little about it either. Federated or not, Meta can easily scrape Lemmy data, so if you mean that .world defederated to pretty up their image and make themselves attractive to Meta, I just don’t see the point, but also, it seems like a conspiracy theory to me.

There’s a piece on TF about a website that closed down years ago, and has been acquitted four times of their “crimes” of linking (as opposed to hosting), and due to a new definition of “communicate” is being sued a fifth time. The sue-happy rights holders have no compunction against going back to destroy anyone they perceive at any time to have infringed “their” works. Look at Reddit, still defending users against identification for doing what? Saying their ISP was lenient about DMCA notices. To protect against that garbage, you have to be careful, and perhaps remove content you agree with to CYA.

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Wait, they are federating with Threads? I thought everyone, even single-user instances blocked them. WTF?

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Yeah, this is why users should get to decide which instances they get to see.

Let’s be our own moderators instead of relying on useful idiots to do it for us.

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Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?

I think bad actors have infiltrated their admin team and are pushing their own agenda.

Lots of useful idiots want to ban discussion of piracy because it makes them realize how they’re getting ripped off.

Nobody wants to acknowledge how they’re being taken for a ride, especially useful idiots.

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I am specifically not on world because they want me to sign up with my real email address. Nty, deanonymizing fucks.

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Do you have a link to this? That sounds extremely alarming, I did not realize they had done that.

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I was going off this info, and was being a bit chicken little (but that position has been working for me LoL) Here’s that link

https://www.theverge.com/24106231/threads-fediverse-demo-meta-fediforum

I got a reply from stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.com further down that sounded like they knew more than me about the situation.

Im sticking to my deffedding for now, and I’ll wait to hear is the sky is falling from my tinfoil bunker

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.world is basically just the losers who got upset that it was too difficult to be a reddit mod since they didn’t have enough power

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Just went to ko-fi too, i use lemmy daily and i love this instance & the admins here, and thats worth a few bucks a month

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