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We really did have everything, didn’t we?

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Compared to the next 100 years we had a utopia, and completely squandered it in a century of grotesque excess. If the species survives 20th/21st century people likely be viewed worse than we do nazi’s; ecocidal maniacs.

I find it ridiculous that the climate movement has rarely mentioned the hyperinflation of food and cost of living collapse that climate change will cause. Our civilisation is built around a dependable climate. Our cities constructed where the rain falls and flows.

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You blame the people trying to warn everyone because they didn’t push one specific point hard enough?

Everything else I was ok with, why didn’t they warn me about the olive oil!?

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Oh, please. I’m merely highlighting a major oversight. Olive oil is the least of our concerns. ALL food and most resources face double digit annual inflation from climate change in the near future.

Climate change has historically been framed as weather extremes, rising sea levels, etc — for as long as I’ve been alive. Only very recently has scarcity, inflation, and economic turmoil greater than the Great Depression, or anything in modern history, entered discussion. Most people still aren’t aware of how fragile our agriculture is.

If the goal was to make people understand the gravity of the situation and scare them into action, neglecting to convey that we risk meat, seafood, etc becoming unaffordable for the 99%, along with many staples, before they retire or we even hit 1.5C, is a failure in messaging.

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Climate movements are. Others are just calling them alarmist.

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But a handful of billionaires got even richer so it was all worth it.

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This seriously blows my mind too though, I just can’t get my head around it. Did they all just forget that they live on the planet too? Do they not have activities and things they enjoy that depend at least somewhat on a functional ecosystem and life sustaining planet?

Or do they not care if we all have to eat insects and nutrient paste in underground bunkers as long as they get more than everyone else?

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It goes like this: “I’ll be dead before shit hits the fan. I also don’t give a shit about the lesser man and those that come after me. If the law allows it; I’ll do it.” -Billionare

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I think that they believe, because of the money they have, that they can find ways to mitigate a lot of the effects of climate change.

Aircondition, all sorts of high end isolation, the ability to afford fresh food and water that’s becoming too expensive for us normies, being able to just move to whatever place on the planet that is still nice to live, …

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You’ve never seen another human refuse to address a problem affecting them (and others) because the solution could affect their current levels of comfort and habit?

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No, we don’t care if you have to eat insects and nutrient paste

MWAHAHAHAHA twiddles moustache

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If you’ve never read up on the late bronze age collapse, I suggest you do it if you feel like being depressed.

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Where are my sea people homies at?

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Got any good links? You’ve piqued my curiosity.

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https://open.spotify.com/episode/2fp6O8oAYbegrMqVnbjZju?si=EN908Q5SQw2Ol0vNljyfIA

The Bronze Age Collapse, Fall of civilizations podcast does an excellent job going in depth about it.

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Thank you!

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I swear to god I will commit war crimes if olives disappear

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There’s a lot of people way ahead of you on the whole “committing war crimes in response to climate change” thing

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True that and they have my full support. (only slightly a joke)

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Oh my god, half the 5 year average. Great great great. Great for farmers, great for prices. We are fucked.

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The climate where you can grow these types of things is shifting and industry needs to shift with it. There will be new places that are conducive to growing that crop (that probably used to not be) and we will need to grow them there.

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Olive trees take decades to grow to harvest size, I hope we’ve started already…

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Not really, superintensive olive tree plantations in Spain grow to harvest size in about 3 years. It uses a lot of water though.

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People have started planting Olives in austria and even germany allready. Eventhoug I think it is more experimental still.

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But then you get the crowd complaining about nonnative plants being planted in the new areas lol

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