Some instances and groups are very chatty (*gestures to /lemmyshitposts), so much so that they dominate the All page.

I knew that there would be a point that browsing /all would no longer be a pleasant or feasible experience, but I quite liked having a pulse on what everyone in the #threadiverse (that kbin.social federates to, anyway) are thinking. But right now it seems @memes is dominating everything.

I don’t want to fully block them from showing up in my feed, but i don’t want to let them full send either. Would it be feasible to add a feature in future releases to be able to adjust the algorhythm on the user-side that would allow for mutes, or deranking it in your feed, instead of outright blocking it?

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I was just getting ready to post something like this as well. We need a way to put a ‘slow-mode’ on certain communities. I don’t want to block them entirely because I enjoy them too, but at this point /all is literally all shitposts and memes. Even scrolling way down (infinite scroll) it’s all memes all the way down.

I want to be able to discover other communities and engage and grow them, but we just can’t see any of them with all the memes.

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I’ve been sorting by new and active for this, but agree with your sentiment

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This is what I’ve been doing too. Sorting by new is pretty cool.

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In Mastodon (I guess I use the official app, if there is one) there is a way, in my settings, to slow down the deluge of posts in the Federated Tineline feed. Maybe this would work for kbin?

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Perhaps it would be possible to make the all feed collapse posts that fall under the same community? Something like “x posted on somemagazine, with y other posts today” which would just link to the community?

I do agree that the memes have been fun but also it’s kind of dominated my feed lately – I’ve had to stick to /sub

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I was speaking about this in another thread, but what I envisioned was some sort of “Also seen in…” thing that would show other communities that the same content was posted in. Like Reddit’s “Discussions also in…” buttons, except visible from the frontpage.

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We could use the Reddit approach to Hot (in Reddit’s equivalent to /sub):

  1. Show the hottest post
  2. Show the hottest post that isn’t in a magazine from which a post was already shown
  3. Repeat step 2 until we’ve reached a minimum level of hotness
  4. Show the rest in order of hotness regardless of which magazine they came from

Ideally you’d replace Step 4 with something that recursively applies steps 1-3 to what’s left over, but since Reddit doesn’t do that, I assume it would be too computationally expensive.

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Yeah, something in the algorithm that prevents one magazine or one instance dominating would be the best approach.

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This would be great, it would enable users to follow all of the communities they want to follow without having the bigger more active ones drown out the smaller ones.

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My naive guess to how Reddit does it would be that they do two SQL commands that look something like this

WITH CTE AS (
    SELECT  *
           ,row_number() OVER(PARTITION BY magazine ORDER BY heat) AS row_num
    FROM    posts
)
SELECT   *
FROM    cte
WHERE   row_num = 1
ORDER BY heat;

followed by

SELECT *
FROM posts
WHERE id<> $IDs_of_previous_request
ORDER BY heat;

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Good news, just like Reddit enhancement suite, kbin has kbin enhancement suite going. Why don’t you ask them if they can do this.

@enhancement

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It might be kinda hard to pull off, but I’ll see what I can do. I’m not sure if KES can be used to (easily) modify the post rankings, but I think randomly hiding them based on a factor you set could work well. So if you set it to 50% for @memes, it’ll hide half of the posts from there on average.

It’s not perfect, but I think it strikes the right balance between seeing every post and blocking it. I’m busy this weekend but I’ll create an issue on KES’s GitHub repo and someone might beat me to it.

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That would be a totally fine workaround. So I guess the user would create a list of ‘attenuated communities’ or some such, and set a value for each.

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This might be a bad suggestion, but would it be possible to do something like mute community for x hours? So until now reaches a timestamp, hide posts from that community (sort of like discords mute channel for x hours). That way people could be like “I’m done with memes for now, but want to see them when I wake up”

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@1chemistdown @quortez

You may also want to consider requesting this as a feature for https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp

https://kbin.social/u/hariette is implementing a feature where your subs home page can be “sprinkled” with posts from communities you don’t already follow. See:

https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp/t/173125/Artemis-is-experimenting-with-a-Discovery-Mode-for-your-feed

What you’re asking for is a variation of that.

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Going to see if I can spin out a community dampener based on the filter feature Artemis has already. Cause I’m so finding myself a bit tired of meme dominating so much heh.

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Agreed, custom aggregators for kbin and the fedverse in general, will become a thing.

I can see a view that combines the hot posts from each of my subbed communities, with the top 1 or two posts from each featuring, filtering over a time constraint or some other ranking system.

A client side implementation would be possible, but expensive in api calls. Server side should be easier. Maybe even defining a query language of sorts that can be user customised, if we wanted to be really fancy.

Some form of weighted rank, combining activity and interaction. I am subbed to some slow communities that are just starting. Maybe having a post or two in 24 hours where I would want those posts to rank highest. Subbed fast paced communities would then rank lower if we factor frequency and interaction on a per community basis.

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@Prouvaire

Yes, Hariette has been super responsive to the community. They’re a fan of Apollo and they’re trying to bring that same community interaction between users and their development of the app. Looking forward to it.

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I’ve just blocked all memes communities for now. It was funny the first few times but it got old real quick.

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