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That’s why steam reviews are better with it being from actual people who aren’t scared of being blacklisted from future access. Even with joke reviews it’s still actually more informative. These review outlets call it review bombing, but I call it review awareness with it highlighting and bringing attention to things paid reviewers neglect and ignore.

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21 points

I don’t blame the reviewers for reviewing the product they were given. I blame Capcom for the bait and switch, and the editors who won’t edit the review to reflect the current reality

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I don’t even necessarily blame the devs, but I do blame the shareholders and people in administrative positions who pushed for this

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Yeah man, “professional” reviewers are the biggest joke in gaming, I’ll trust the people who actually after about a h money they spent and the games they played. Genuine people tend to be truth worthy in this regard.

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92 points

Spoilers: they won’t.

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Spoilers: they shouldn’t. They actually reviewed the game and didn’t circlejerk about one completely optional feature.

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96 points

I think the whole game should be reviewed and that includes the microtransactions. There’s a reason they add them after the reviews are in because they know people don’t like to be nickel and dimed in a game that costs 60 to 70 fucking dollars.

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Microtransactions arent the game though. And none of whats for sale makes a bit of difference to the game. Not to mention everything you can buy is in the game already, it wasnt taken out or put behind a paywall.

Do you also rate a game negatively if they have a battle pass? What about other capcom games like the resident evil remakes where you could buy the unlocked infinite weapons for 5 dollars? Do either take away from the actual game? No, no they do not.

Its still not great, i agree, but it doesnt make a good game bad just because you think its scummy. I say this, but i do not have the game nor will i be getting it. Not because of people online crying about a nothing burger, but i just dont have a system strong enough to play it. If i did, i would because i loved the original game.

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Hey wise guy. I have this amazing solution for that. It’s called not fucking buying them. People are losing their shit about this, yet helldivers 2 does the exact same thing and no one gives a shit.

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45 points

except the version of the game they reviewed allegedly didn’t have the micro-transactions/paywalls

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6 points

Did the review copies have the features you’d need to buy with microtransactions?

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The items are included in the game I thought, the microtransactions are just one method to obtain them.

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The released game doesn’t have paywalls either. I guess you’re incapable of understanding the issues you feel obliged to complain about.

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The game didn’t change though. The items are still in game, have the same in game prices. Fundamentally it’s the same game.

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6 points

Why would somebody only review a portion of the game you’re playing?

It’s like reading a movie review where the author showed up 30 minutes late to the movie

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It’s literally not. It’s like reading a positive review for a movie and then going to see it and being outraged the theater is charging $14 for popcorn. No one is forcing you to buy the popcorn, and not buying it in no way affects your movie experience.

Don’t you have more important things to be outraged about? Isn’t it exhausting hating everything all at once?

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This is Lemmy though, you need to toss out common sense before opening the site.

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3 points

Can you suggest other sites that don’t come with that baggage but still curate worthwhile content?

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Oh good, one more AAA I can auto-skip over.

Did you know you can block publishers on Steam?

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17 points

Refunded as soon as I saw… thanks for saving me $70, Dragon’s Dogshit II devs! Shame, game looks amazing, but nah.

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7 points

Why skip when you can pirate it for free? Everything is pirateable these days.

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6 points

I sure can’t. They just show back up with “Blocked” on the cover

That’s not blocking them. That’s just modifying the cover art

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6 points

Completely agree. Block means don’t see in my mind.

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ITT: Mental Gymnastics competition to see how well one can defend corporate greed

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35 points

Nobody wants to admit they’ve been taken for a ride.

Mark Twain said it best: “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

Useful idiot is the norm for this generation.

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3 points

I’m years too late asking this because I get what it means, but what does ITT actually stand for?

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6 points

In this thread.

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1 point

Seems so obvious now. Thank you.

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2 points

I dislike the microtransactions as well, but there’s an insane amount of disinformation about them in these discussions.

Almost all of the items are easily obtainable in the game by just playing, so there’s no gating of content behind the paywall. It being a single player game, there’s also no competitive advantage to be gained by buying them for real money (or inversely lost out on by not buying them)

The whole discussion is blown widely out if proportion.

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8 points

I view the mtx as basically paying for cheat codes. I’m not interested in using cheats but am opposed to companies trying to monetize them. It’s straight up mobile game level of BS in a PC game. Tbh though, if the store button wasn’t available in the main men, I wouldn’t even know the mtx exist.

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35 points

From the comments here I can see we learned nothing from Horse Armour.

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Lots was learned. They learned they can continue to move the goalposts simply forever it seems.

Wait for the rage over this particular round to die down. Release a game with similar but slightly dialed back bullshit. Tell everyone how much better you are than them.

Repeat until people pay $99 for the right to rent the game for $10 a month plus pay to win MTX.

Sure DD2 is a corpse, but a new game will come growing from its corpse.

Soon the poors won’t be able to play games anyway as that will be forbidden by their owners

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Soon the poors won’t be able to play games anyway as that will be forbidden by their owners

This is the nice thing about indy devs. Many of them don’t pull this shit and it is likely a large reason indy games have increasingly grown in popularity. AAA game is basically synonymous with microtranscations at this point.

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I’m gonna paste a comment I left the other day pertaining to this:

I will die on the hill of “Oblivion’s horse armor DLC was not the beginning of micro transactions”

Because it wasn’t. There were micro transactions for games long before the hore armor thing. Also, horse armor was a one-time purchase for that mechanic.

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6 points

I’m pretty sure the mtx for dragons dogma are all 1 time dlc bought on the steam page just like the horse Armour.

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Also, horse armor was a one-time purchase for that mechanic.

It wasn’t even a mechanic, though. The armor literally did nothing, it was a cosmetic.

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No it was armour. Technically it just buffed your horse’s HP rather than being true armour, but it did something.

There was also a new vendor who sold it and a little quest to enable it.

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I will die on the hill of “Oblivion’s horse armor DLC was not the beginning of micro transactions”

Because it wasn’t. There were micro transactions for games long before the hore armor thing.

Such as? Are you saying you could pay a small amount for something in a game before this? Sure, it’s possible.

Also, horse armor was a one-time purchase for that mechanic.

Ok, and? As in it’s a small amount (micro) purchase for a thing?

I’m not sure exactly what hill you’re dying on here. That there was a game somewhere that had buyable things for small amounts of money before Oblivion? Sure, there may have been. And?

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Double dragon 3. You had to put coins into the arcade machine to literally buy items from an in-game store…

Also, second life came out before Oblivion.

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https://sh.itjust.works/comment/10147126

https://lemmy.world/comment/8707129

Here’s a couple replies to my earlier comment that bring up games from before and early in the mainstream console days (pre-Xbox/PlayStation).

I’m sure there are plenty of other examples as well.

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Agreed, it’s really not what people think of when they really think of microtransactions. Horse armour was really just mediocre & overpriced DLC.

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