(unpaywalled version on archive.today: https://archive.ph/03cwZ)

Interesting figure that comes out of the article: 87% of US teens prefer iPhones. Also the explanations given aren’t quite surprising, I guess it’s mostly because of iMessage. Teens will feel like outcasts if they get an Android phone while their friends still use iMessage because of the green bubbles.

It’s actually hilarious how we allowed consumerism to take us this far and that we have now peer pressure over smartphones.

“You’re telling me in 2023, you still have a ’Droid? […] You gotta be at least 50 years old.”

ouch 😔

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My entire life I’ve been reading news that only iPhones are cool, yet my social circles don’t care and have never said anything like this. I feel like this is a ‘Hello fellow kids’ type of investigative journalism, that is a secret apple ad.

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I’m also convinced these are really just paid for by Apple ads. I’ve never seen anyone care about such a thing.

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How often are you around teens though? My dad is a high school teacher and his students are always surprised and ask him why he has an Android and not an iPhone.

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High school teacher here, and I see this a bit (although I have an iPhone)

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I’ve heard this is an American thing. I’m Canadian, and my kids are teenagers and only one friend they have has an iPhone, the rest are on Android (as are all of my friends now, the last one went over to Android last year)

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Most tech “news” is paid by the subject of the said news.

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Nah. That’s North America. iPhones in North America have become a status symbol, you have to be available on iMessage, otherwise they’ll contact you by SMS. I know a lot of people in Canada who have no other messaging app (WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.). They only communicate via iMessage.

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Unless you care about privacy (signal), why even have a second messaging app? I have the phone to make calls and send texts. The default shit works well on iphone and android.

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Eh, that was my highschool experience at least. It was never super serious or anything, like it’s not like I was being bullied lol, but I was regularly teased about it in my friend group.

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9 points

When I was in highschool, the phone was attached to the wall in the kitchen. Simpler times.

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How do you do fellow consumer

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Who the fuck calls Android devices “'Droids” unironically? This couldn’t have been real teenagers. Not ones from the past decade at the very least.

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What you are referring to as droids is in fact Android/Linux, or as I’ve recently started calling it, Android+Linux.

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Good one! :)

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Who the fuck calls Android devices “'Droids” unironically?

Motorola 👀

Not ones from the past decade at the very least.

guess we can thank TikTok and Snapchat for that?

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Psst. Side bar.

I like retro stuff.

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Oh my god. I didn’t even see that! Lmao

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I’ve never run into that, but I feel like it’s a good pivotable moment:

"Yeah Bob, this closed source walled garden isn’t playing nice with the group chat… good point, let’s move to Signal where everyone can have a good experience. "

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Going from one app (iMessage) to two isn’t an unambiguous win though. All the iPhone users’ experience got worse.

To be clear, this is such minor shit that the real answer is, “ok, I guess we’ll live with it because that’s how we communicate with our friends now”, but it is certainly nicer for them if everyone is on an iPhone and they don’t have to solve that problem.

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Our group moved to a private discord. Solved that problem.

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I hope Sup. will take off. That will get a lot more people using the Fediverse in a format they prefer if there’s a FB Messager alternative attached to it.

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I’m 36, have had windows mobile pocket PCs thru HTCs and eventually Samsung Galaxies, and have absolutely been shamed several times by different friend groups over the last decade plus lfor not having iMessage. It def ramped up in the later 2010s

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Can you expand on your experiences? Was the social pressure constant, or just a comment? Do you think it impacted your relationships with your friends?

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I have, in my dating life, gotten lightening charging cables to have around the house.

It’s never fun to have someone ask you for a charger, you saying “Sure, use the fast charger right there”, and not have the lightening cable for their phone. But it’s also a catch-22, if you DO have the cable they need then its “Why do you have this cable, you don’t have a iphone”.

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“Why do you have this cable, you don’t have a iphone”

It’s like having some spare toothbrushes and women’s hygiene stuff just in case someone stays over. You’ll score points for being thoughtful, but on the other hand they’ll be like: waaait a minute …

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Top iphone tip, heh -

When guests leave little reminders around the house, keep them in labeled zip loc bags, not in a general lost and found bin.

Far less awkward when they ask where their stuff is and you pull out a huge box of jewelry and clothing - “Can you describe your earrings for me?” - never goes down well.

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!android@lemmy.world, now also the best place for dating tips.

Personally, I would appreciate the thoughtfulness of it.

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7 points

“it’s an ex girlfriend’s” is a good ice breaker.

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Apple has a great advertisement department. They are great at pumping such news stories.

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I mentioned it in another comment, but this was real in my experience. At least in highschool. It’s not like I was bullied or anything, but I was teased about it quite a bit and honestly it made me want to switch to iPhone just to fit in.

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“This unbiased and purely informative piece of journalism sponsored by Apple.”

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Only in theaters July 21st. 😊

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Theater at home early with Apple TV+ Ultra!

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No one gives a shit which phone you have.

Also, no one uses the term “droid”.

This article reads like “fellow kids” nonsense.

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No one gives a shit which phone you have.

In high school, they absolutely do.

Like, the epitome of the high school experience is social peer pressure about dumb shit.

And this can have a huge effect on the market in 5 years time.

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this must be a us thing, I’d say over half the people have in Ireland have iPhones but nobody cares really, if anything my custom rommed Poco f3 has gotten a bit of interest from a few friends

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Same. I mean I haven’t been to highschool in a little over ten years, so I can’t say what kids are using these days. But here in Australia, none of us really cares about what phone you have. Though I think most of us were Samsung users.

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Here in Canada from what I’ve seen at my school at least 85% of students have an iPhone. I have been the only person in multiple classes to have an Android phone.

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as a high schooler (outside of america) my friends mostly have androids, I’m not saying they are better, just saying that they are more common

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I’ll tell you a secret…

All the phones suck. Some more than others.

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God, the memories you just unlocked

There was this one guy at school who one day rocked up with his new Windows Phone, that was the cool, new thing then.
When I came up to him and told him he wasn’t going to be the only one with a 4" Amoled screen, he was devastated

Man, we were stupid

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I got roasted by a room full of interns for having an android phone last week.

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Idk what people use. I had two coworkers from another country ask why I don’t have an iPhone?

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Yeah I could not care less. Seems beyond weird to me. Reminds me of the old video game console arguments in elementary school.

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Also, no one uses the term “droid”.

glance at sidebar

🥲

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for those who are out of the loop: https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=7nvijQ-L_ms

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No, this is real. An iPhone to kids is like a social status symbol and potential family wealth indicator. Of course it’s absolute bull, but just as adults are, kids are horribly manipulated by marketing and advertising too. Kids have glommed onto phones for conspicuous consumption whereas adults glom onto cars and houses for said signals.

Of course not all adults or kids do this, but a great deal do. That’s where the stupid bumper sticker comes from that says, “He who has the most toys at the end wins!” Very ugly stuff, in my opinion. And if there is a devil, that’s where it lives mostly.

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I think that is mostly a US thing, as I see way more Androids in Europe than iPhones. But I could be wrong

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Yeah, it’s definitely a Yank thing.

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Yep. Primary chat protocol is still SMS. The general population hasn’t latched on to WhatsApp or others like many countries have.

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I really struggle with switching stuff to WhatsApp just because it’s Facebook. But yeah, every time I go to another country I end up having to download it for something.

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I’d take SMS over Facebook any day.

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We like to think that but if you want to reach people who are on Whatsapp you’re gonna have to install Whatsapp. And the other way around, if people have a group for whatever (plan a group outing, kids’ soccer team, tenants’ association etc.) on Whatsapp and one person is not on Whatsapp, tough luck buddy, they get left out.

Apple framed it as an “iPhone vs Android” issue for their own reasons but the larger issue (social network peer pressure) is very much a thing in Europe too.

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And it’s so outdated too. The iPhone was a “cool” status symbol in like 2010 and 2014. Not so much when everyone has them.

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I thought that time period was more a Blackberry thing, and to a lesser extent the Sony Xperia and Galaxy series was taking off

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Nah, since 2007 when the iPhone came out everyone had to have one. Then the 2nd model had GPS and apps in 2008 and blew the doors wide open. By 2010 HTC was releasing phones like the incredible and the “droid” moniker was in full swing - with Apple consistently mopping the floor.

I’d say iPhone fervor kind of died down around 2010 actually.

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100%, I’ve lived both in the US and Europe, and Androids are definitely more prevalent in Europe than in the US.

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Judging by the amount of times I hear the same ringtone as mine, I think where I live in the UK is about 70-80% Samsung Android phones.

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I live in Brazil and don’t know many people with iPhones, most have Android phones

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Definitely not in Germany, I think. People here are obsessed with apple. But im not native German, so maybe im wrong.

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Idk, I see plenty of both, and most people I know are capable of having objective discussions about it.

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Objective discussions about why apple is better?

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