126 points

My spouse struggled with a medical condition for years and was lucky to finally get a prescription for something that actually resolved the problem. The medication was expensive ($1000+ a month), but since we literally tried everything else, insurance would “let” it be covered.

Then I lost my job and had to move over to a new company’s insurance plan. And they won’t cover it.

The fact that your employment in the US determines what medical care you can get is absolutely bonkers.

permalink
report
reply
31 points

A medication being more expensive usually indicates rarity. This means the instance of required coverage by insurance companies is also rare. The fact any medication, needed to mitigate the risk of simply being born, might not be covered by “insurance” is bonkers.

I think we need to start a new industry to take it to insurance companies every time they deny coverage. Bury them in complaints and legal actions. Go so hard on every case that they give in immediately upon seeing the letterhead.

permalink
report
parent
reply
38 points

I think insurance companies are useless parasites that should all have been outmoded by single payer decades ago.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

My medicine is $1,500 a month without insurance. It’s a bipolar medication. It doesn’t indicate rarity, it indicates greed. They could easily sell it for half the price and still make money.

permalink
report
parent
reply

I knew a guy with AIDS that had some pills to take like once a month I think that were around that price and also struggled with coverage. I didn’t think AIDS was considered rare.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
*

deleted by creator

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

It’s important to keep in mind that this rarity is often artificial scarcity by the pharmaceutical companies. There are some conditions which are rare, but have treatments that have been available for decades now with generics on the market for years. They simply don’t produce much of those meds, even though it’s cheap to do so, in order to artificially inflate the market price.

Insurers are complicit in this scheme because they don’t push back on this practice at all. Without single payer, we have no negotiating force to get pharmaceuticals to produce drugs in an affordable way, so they can manipulate the market however they please. It’s absolutely depraved.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Most meds take dollars to make. It ain’t rarity.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

That’s their point. If I need to setup a production facility but there’s only demand for a thousand doses a year, then the long term capital costs are going to drive the unit price up.

But there’s also greed. Stuff that’s a dollar to make and a thousand dollars to use.

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

They did that to prevent people from being able to shop for insurance. They promote capitalism, but they suppress competition which is, in theory, supposed to be part of a “healthy” capitalist economy.

The ACA helped a tiny bit, but it didn’t go nearly far enough. And then they tried a zillion times to revoke even that.

It’s never been about healthcare, it’s always been about making a small number of people very wealthy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Seriously. My wife lost her job because of medical conditions (depression and adhd) before we were married. Getting her treatment was part of why we got married

permalink
report
parent
reply
73 points

We do stings in restaurants (for servering underagers) all the time. The fines are significant for the server and the restaurant. I wish they would do stings on mechanics, dentists, and most importantly health care. Wrongfully denied claims should be devastating to the company.

permalink
report
reply
14 points
*

Oh yeah dentists for sure. The dentist who removed my wisdom teeth was a total quack. He did it in two sessions, used novocaine even though I told him it didn’t work well on me, and actually crushed a tooth to get it out. And yes, I felt the pain of him crushing a tooth. We should have sued him.

This was when I was 19. I’m 46 now. A few months ago, I had a terrible pain back where my wisdom teeth were and it got worse and worse. I have some nerve issues, so scheduling a dentist is a big deal right now because I need to be totally out. So we scheduled it, but a few days later, a little sliver of tooth from the space where he crushed the wisdom tooth worked its way out and the pain stopped.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

That’s a twofold issue. Original dentist for sure, but also, that sliver of tooth should have been picked up over the years in routine x-rays you should have had during routine exams, as well.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Oof I feel for you friend. When I was in my early 20s I had to get all four wisdoms out as they came in crooked, all four had to be crushed and removed, but at least they knocked me out for it and gave me percocets afterwards…

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Out of curiosity, are you a redhead?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I am not. So brown it’s almost black.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
51 points

The fact that whether or not I get medical care is almost completely determined by whatever insurance company I have at any given time is so depressing.

I have thankfully been pretty healthy in my life but the few times I’ve actually needed help I have been told to go fuck myself pretty much every time by my insurance and since I’m not a millionaire I can’t afford anything that’s not covered. Don’t even get me started on the Russian roulette at the doctor’s office where anything can cost seemingly any amount at any time and no one has any damn clue until the bill’s arrived.

So whether or not I need the help really doesn’t matter at the end of the day most times. All that matters is if the insurance company is feeling nice or not.

permalink
report
reply
21 points

My doctor diagnosed me with a b-12 deficiency. Something easily fixed with a shot she prescribed.

The pharmacist looked at me like I was a drug addict when I asked where the needle for the injection was when I picked up the scrip. “Just have the doctor do it”.

Fee for randomly showing up to my doctor to get the shot? $0

Fee for getting the shot done when I was actively at a scheduled check up? $130

I take an oral supplement instead now that’s not quite as effective.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Go to your local co-op or tractor supply, or order online. We always have hundreds stocked here on the farm for the animals, and they’re cheaper and literally the same thing as the stuff used for humans, usually from the same companies and factories.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Inb4 someone makes a joke about Horse Dewormer, or Fish antibiotics because they’re “better than that”.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

Needles are legal over the counter in my state as they should be. But I’ve had so many pharmacists pull shit about me buying them. Like first of all motherfucker you just saw me buy a vial of estradiol, but even if you didn’t I know I’d rather addicts shoot up with new needles on a purely selfish basis of it prevents disease from spreading. Anyways I buy online in bulk from a medical supplier now, it’s just easier

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Yeah, it was absolutely crazy to me. I know several diabetics who would be given a needle for their insulin… But they acted like I was going to shoot up some smack after they literally handed me B-12 to inject.

permalink
report
parent
reply
37 points

Remember all the hysteria over “death panels” during the ACA debates? Fooled you, they were already here, invented by insurance companies.

permalink
report
reply
12 points

That’s why I’m very open about who decided when my mom died. The government didn’t choose, her doctor didn’t choose, and neither her nor her family chose. You get three resurgences of cancer, that’s what the insurance company decided.

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

They paired that with a ton of bullshit about “corporate efficiency” vs " government corruption". It was one of the biggest Anarcho-Capitalist PR coups in my life.

permalink
report
parent
reply
24 points

The insurance companies use computer algorithms to deny claims and most people won’t fight it.

permalink
report
reply
29 points

Most people can’t fight it. Fighting a claim, depending on insurance, requires multiple different Doctors recommending the same thing. Sometimes the insurance requires prior steps taken that are unavailable to individuals (I was required to take antibiotic that I’m allergic to before a surgery). Getting into a specialist can take months, and the costs of seeing a specialist are not often covered at all (goes towards deductible), and unless you live in or near a city you may not be able to find specialists you don’t need to get a hotel to see (travel expenses and time off work are not covered). Not to mention, if fighting a denied claim rolls over to the next year, everything starts over, even if you have the same insurance it’s considered a new policy because it’s a new year.

Unless you have unlimited time and money, fighting a denied claim is pretty difficult and goes nowhere fast. That’s how the system was designed.

permalink
report
parent
reply

News

!news@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.

If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.

The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 18K

    Posts

  • 468K

    Comments