102 points

GOP politicians: “I love cops, just not when they investigate my guy’s crimes”

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Hey FBI remember when that russian plant cheated his way into the office of predisent and you fucking did sweet fuckall for years about it? Member that?

And then, hey, and then remember when he staged a really fucked up coup to try and steal the election in front of god and everybody and y’all sat there with your thumb up your asses instead of arresting him and tearing the right-wing white-supremacy network apart to its foundations? Member?

yeah. Yup.

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You could argue that former director Comey actually helped them out a lot by announcing news about Clinton’s ongoing investigation during the election, rather than did fuck all.

At least he grew a spine once Trump was actually in office.

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11 points

I’m not sure they member

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abscam

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5 points

Shiiiiiit, I member.

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5 points

Almost like the racio-fascists are imbedded deep in intel world

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Lmao okay so the FBI is great when you want to investigate hunter biden

Then when you don’t get what you want you defund them hahahaha

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58 points

The Party of Law and Order, I’ve heard that somewhere before. The party that is tough on crime, is another false appellation. smh

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50 points

We need democrats or at least Super PACs to start commercials the fact that they are soft on crime. They want to defund the police.

Remember that nuance is not a characteristic of the right.

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The Democrats need to get a whole hell of a lot tougher on messaging. Biden needs to stand in front of crowds and cameras and call Trump exactly what he is: a traitor, a criminal and a dangerous Russian asset. Fuck statesmanship at this point. Trump should have never, ever been able to get this close to the presidency again, yet here we are.

It’s not enough to just be quietly polite when your opponent wants to destroy the rule of law and order. I’m so entirely sick of watching as the Democrats blow opportunity after opportunity to win big.

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The bases for the two parties are very very different.

It’s why Republicans can, with little consequence, call Democrats pedophiles, crooks, etc.

Democrats have a big tent, with a lot of moderates in the base. Moderates, for the most part, see democrats as the paragons of virtue, people who should stand tall while their opponents throw shit at their face and call it confetti.

Moderates won’t vote for Democrats if they feel like they can’t be polite. They won’t vote for Republicans but simply keeping them out of the ballot box is enough for Republicans to win.

The only good way to deal with this is as a SuperPAC. Running attack ads and forcing Republicans to play defense. But remember that conservatives have significant backing from rich assholes and they have their own SuperPACs.

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I’ll disagree with that, as someone lemmy would classify as a moderate.

We all know the Dems are the only adults in the room. We know they actually want to govern. We accept that the majority of them are corporate shills, but also want to improve things for the people as long as there’s not a direct conflict with corporate America.

Most importantly, we recognize that the other party wants to pillage this country and burn down everything and hand it over to the filthy rich.

If the Dems got into petty attacks on Republicans, you would not lose moderate voters. You may lose more Progressives, but let’s be honest, all it takes is one wedge issue to lose Progressives. They are not a vote worth pursuing. It’s getting more of the red vote, or at least creating voter apathy in the Right by branding all their politicians as the absolute clowns they are.

20 years ago, I would say you were right. Being respectable was a draw. But actions speak louder than words, and the Republican’s actions for the last decade have been absolutely vile. Rhetoric won’t change that.

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Actually the corporate news media should be doing that.

Because it’s news. and true. and important to upholding democracy. Which is the entire fucking purpose of a free press

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3 points

That ship sailed with end of the Fairness Doctrine and rules against media cross-ownership.

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9 points

While I agree with your assessment, I don’t think it’ll have much of an impact on turn out. Everyone who’s paying attention has likely already made up their mind.

What I think we need now is more peer to peer grassroots messaging. Get those who aren’t paying enough attention informed and motivated, while not wasting time on trying to -change- minds.

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Well I think we agree. It’s not about changing minds but getting people fired up enough to go vote. Democrats win when voters show up in large numbers. Those not paying attention need to be given reasons to do so.

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I would roll my eyes incredibly hard, but I’m starting to think they need to get into the childish nickname game too. It really sells to that crowd. People are, to this day, still delightfully saying Lets Go Brandon like it’s clever.

I will forgive them. There’s a large portion of this country that thinks of politics as entertainment and are just interested in drama. Fight fire with fire.

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I think the DNC is going to have a lot of room to play around this election, given the massive amounts of campaign funding their opponents have burnt up on Donald Trump.

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