I dunno - at first it was promising, but today I was actually thinking of leaving Lemmy and trying to find a larger site.
I’m not sure if the entire Internet has somehow become addicted to groupthink or if this is just a symptom of Lemmy’s smaller size and a selection bias, but it’s been getting worse and worse over the past nine months and it’s definitely turning me off to the community here.
What I loved about Reddit was that on any given story you saw a number of well informed opinions debating the nuances of those opinions. You’d learn so much more by engaging with the comments than just reading the article itself.
But here it seems more and more to be turning into a confirmation bias machine, where discourse and nuance takes a back seat to conformity to locally populist narratives. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve been downvoted for linking to multiple recent research papers (from places like Harvard and MIT) because the implication of those papers was contrary to popularly held beliefs here.
While I’ve had a few good interactions, it’s become less and less of a signal to noise ratio on those interactions.
It’s possible this is a larger trend, but I haven’t noticed it to nearly the same degree on other less generalized forums I spend my time, so I suspect it’s just a Lemmy thing.
A shame, as I think the tech is outstanding. But as is often the case, good tech is only part of a product, and in the case of social media it’s the community too, and I’ve been growing increasingly disappointed in Lemmy’s community who likes to pat themselves on the back for a welcoming spirit with the apparent unmentioned footnote in small print that it’s a welcoming spirit that only extends to people regurgitating their own opinions back to them.
Redditors aren’t used to communists not being actively suppressed while fascists get passively protected and it shows. All you’re saying here is that you prefer the one narrative reddit forced onto everyone with their moderating and astrotruf, and being exposed to different ideas makes you feel uncomfortable. You’re always welcome to go back to the race-baiting and fascist propaganda, sounds like you’d be happier there.
Lemmy is a collection of differing voices from all over the federation, so your “there’s no diversity of thought” sounds like when conservatives mald that their terrible ideas aren’t well received the moment they step out of their racist circlejerk. To the white, equality feels like oppression.
It’s strange because that person’s from lemmy.world? That seems like a pretty liberal/reddity instance from what I’ve seen. I was gonna tell them to go to another instance if they don’t like .ml’s politics but then I saw theyre not even from .ml lol
Yeah that’s why I went as hard as I did. LW’s somewhat of a nazi bar so that paints a picture of the kind of person we’re dealing with here. I could just imagine their head popping like a gasket if they ever ran into a hexbear or lemmygrad user who could hard counter their shit.
EDIT: I looked into them and honestly not the worst i’ve seen. They’re very reddit-poisoned but I bet a year or two off and they’ll be fine.
the problem with lemmy is your either a communist or fascist, with no in-between. it’s this rediculius polarisation that makes it not very fruitful to have actual conversations around here
It’s the main reason I gravitate so much towards lemmygrad. Their zero-tolerance stance on fash shit (plus being defederated from literally every problem instance by dint of being openly communist) allows you to have actual conversations with people without having to explain basic morality every three seconds. They’re pretty tolerant of differing ideas as long as you’re not parroting fascist talking points and even then they’ll usually put in a good faith attempt to explain why what you’re saying is fucked up and give you a chance to self-correct.
Sadly a lot of the federation is a lot less good about this, where anything even remotely political turns into a debate/slapfight where nobody feels good at the end of it and nothing really gets done. Some people are just useless trolls who shouldn’t be engaged; not to mention the groups actively trying to balkanize the federation.
Plus if you think this place is bad. Mastodon… I made a post about them earlier but if you respond to any post without heaping praise you just get instantly blocked. They’re a great platform but good god is the culture there just obscenely toxic to conversation.
It’s okay. I still peruse reddit sometimes because the subs here aren’t sufficient enough. Also, reddit has more variety. Lemmy is a bit too political. Like /c/news seems to only post political stuff. And it’s mostly liberal leaning (which I am), but too liberal occasionally. People hate nazis here but curiously, they also hate Israel. I’m looking for more communities that are less intense and charged. Stuff about crafting, plant rearing, literature, etc. The other big fediverse site, Mastodon, has a similar prevalence of charged stuff, but I’ve found a bit more silly things both on my own and with suggestions over there. I suppose I could start some new communities here but I’m doubtful I have the fortitude to make them get increased traction.
Just start em, and post what you want to, steal posts from reddit if you like too (but not automated like the annoying ass bots), and if it grows it grows. I’m one of like 4 people posting in c/comicbooks, and if it grows great but if not that’s ok too, all we can do is try.
Same in some of my hobbies. I’m like one of 3 posting in !leagueoflegends@lemmy.world but if people like us don’t post, it won’t grow at all, so got to try! I do need to do it more often.
I feel ya. I tire of the politics here, and it can get extremely left leaning, like pro-communism/pro-socialism/pro-fascism and very anti-American to the point where it’s a little sus. I get it, there’s always been anti-America sentiment surrounding conversations and in media all my life, but it’s a bit extreme here.
I go onto social media to turn my brain off, not do elaborate research on the past 500 years of colonialism so that I can make sure I’m accurately arguing my point cohesively on this one comment. At the very least, I’ll engage with conversations about tech when I’m not turning my brain off, but I hate politics/debate. I want a DDR/Stepmania/Etterna community where we can discuss new themes released, new songs on various cabinets, etc.
Well said, I agree with you. The politics/debates can be so intense that it can prevent Lemmy from being a place where people go to just relax and switch off. Even the meme communities have so much political content.
And I suppose it’s only going to intensify during the U.S. election later this year.
Fascism is not even close to left lol. But I agree there’s too much politics sometimes. I don’t mind arguing about it but it could be good to talk about other stuff. I suggest subscribing to communities that advertise other communities so we can help them.
!trendingcommunities@feddit.nl !newcommunities@lemmy.world !communitypromo@lemmy.ca
Also browsing by scaled sort has helped me discover some new communities that my instance is connected.
And of course: https://lemmyverse.net/communities
I know just finding a new community doesn’t guarantee it will have people in it, but we have to start posting in those empty communities and filling them with content. It’s something I need to do a lot better with, too. I lurk too much.
Not seeing my reply show up, so doing it again in case the previous one got lost in the abyss: Subscribed to all 3 just now and I’m looking forward to enjoying some new communities! Thank you!
- switched to a split ergonomic mechanical keyboard
- working on a fork of Lemmy geared toward inventory called “Lemventory”
- moderating multiple Lemmy communities that are basically ghost towns (and I don’t care)
- got rid of my Instagram (and all centralized forms of social media except YouTube) and replaced it with Pixelfed and others
- letting my NixOS flag fly much more regularly now
- hexbear defederation only created a Streisand Effect and piqued my curiosity about Marxism. I’m now much better educated about it and have come to conclude that lemmy.world is basically filled with smug, tech-bro, hive-mind, blue maga, chuds that support censorship of simple ideas and subscribe to blind, disingenuous American exceptionalism that wouldn’t even stand up to the most generous critical analysis.
I’m both curious and clueless about what “geared towards inventory” could possibly mean
Here’s the gist of my idea so far:
stores (or alliances of stores in similar industries) :: instances
inventory items :: posts
counts :: votes
item categories (or entire stores depend on implementation) :: communities
moderators are only allowed to post items to their own community or instance.
comments can still exist (perhaps as item reviews with the same upvote/downvote mechanic).
No actual transactions would be processed over this protocol. It would be solely for inventory broadcast/aggregation (like Shopify in that it houses the inventory of many vendors except without the transaction ability built-in since pub-sub is horrible for that kind of thing).
Edit: if you have any opinions (even “what a stupid idea!”) I’d be open to them. I haven’t even written a single line of code yet and it’s a fresh idea in my head waiting to be shot down by someone less idealistic than myself.
I don’t really get the idea you’ve explained, but i’m sure its good. I’m generally excited at the prospects of less centralised internet, and so can’t wait to see projects like yours grow.
Flibboard is a social magazine thats jumping into federation. They’re doing a really uplifting podcast. Their conversations might help you clarify your idea. Or even just pump you up when your feeling less motivated.
I like it, i always leave it feeling excited and hopeful about the fediverse. Anyway heres a link, https://dot-social.simplecast.com/episodes/mike-masnick-cuZMZfe9
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