Well, that’s not true.
We say it because both US parties are very similar, and both of them are very right leaning compared to the rest of the western world.
It also indicates that’s there’s no democracy in the US, because there’s only really one choice.
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YES, THERE IS NO FAR LEFT PARTY IN AMERICA. THAT’S LITERALLY WHAT I WAS SAYING.
America’s “left” isn’t actually left. Actual far left is communism. There is no communist party of any importance in the US
Which major US party is far left (on a global political scale)? I must have missed them somehow.
Our Overton Window is crazy right at this point.
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I was literally saying the exact same thing as what is in the replies.
I’ll simplify:
USA no have real left party. Real far left party communism. No American communists. America bad. Communism good.
Do I pass the purity test now?
Way to ruin a discussion and appear even worse than you did while discussing. How old are you?
There was no discussion. There was me saying “America has no communist party” followed by several people saying “you’re wrong, there’s no far-left party in America”
It was a giant misunderstanding and distraction, not a discussion
What leftist party is there in the US that is centered around some form of Socialism that controls any meaningful amount of the State?
That’s only a meaningful question if the only “true Left” is a Leftist political party that is centered around some form of Socialism that controls a meaningful amount of a State.
Not necessarily. A Syndicalist or otherwise Anarchist-derivative party doesn’t exist either, and no similar coalition exists on the ground with widespread impact on the Capitalist status-quo, yet.
I really hope you’re not trying to insinuate that the DNC are somehow left wing.
Other people have already posted good answers so I just want to add a couple things.
If you want a very simple, concrete example: Healthcare. It depends on how you count, but more than half the world’s countries have some sort of free or low cost public healthcare, whereas in the US, the richest country in the history of countries, that’s presented as radical left wing kooky unrealistic communist Bernie idea. This isn’t an example of a left-wing policy that we won’t adopt, but of what in much of the world is a normal public service that we can’t adopt because anti-socialism in this country is so malignant and metastasized that it can be weaponized against things that are just considered normal public services almost like roads in other countries.
A true left wing would support not just things like healthcare, but advocate for an economic system in which workers have control over their jobs, not the bosses. That is completely absent.
Also, this meme:
It’s glib, but it’s not wrong. Both parties routinely support American militarism abroad. Antimilitarism in favor of internationalism has been a corner stone for the left since the left began.
in my world, that’s called same shit different pile.
also,while i am no right wing supporter, i constantly run into leftist who wouldn’t hesitate to brand me a phobe of their convenience ,none of the right leaning people i interacted with does this… anecdotal i know.
“I constantly complain about anyone left of Thatcher and have reactionary social views, the people who agree with me don’t criticise me. Curious!”
that’s a strange observation,given i actually criticise both left and right rather than just the left.
Yeah, but no one lives in your world but you. In the real world, you’re so hilariously off the mark.
i constantly run into leftist who wouldn’t hesitate to brand me a phobe of their convenience ,none of the right leaning people i interacted with does this… anecdotal i know.
Maybe the leftist has a point because you actually align with the right? Crazy, I know, but I’ve seen this argument play out irl more than once with some rightoids that loved to pretend their politics weren’t right aligned.
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Whereas wanting to kill people you don’t like has absolutely nothing in common with the Nazis.
Edit: The comment I’m replying to was completely changed, so now my reply makes no sense.
Who are “they”? This is the first time I’ve ever heard that statement.
“they” is commonly used and understood as being a general reference to ‘people’, whether a specific area (politics) or society.
Ah ok, I’ll rephrase the question: Which “people” are saying this? This is the first time I’ve ever heard that statement.
I’ve said it before, and many others on discussion forums who are not from the US but have knowledge of the system and its characters.
