Donald Trump faces four indictments, 91 criminal charges and hundreds of years of maximum prison time combined.

This is a former president who — according to the latest grand jury indictment in Fulton County, Georgia — participated in a “criminal enterprise.” Trump and 18 co-defendants are accused of trying “to unlawfully change the outcome of the election” in 2020. Among the 13 felony charges he faces is one count of violating the Georgia RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act and two counts of conspiracy to commit forgery.

Most of those charges are related to a fake elector scheme by the Trump campaign in which a slate of “alternate” electors in Georgia would cast electoral votes for Trump instead of Joe Biden. The president of the most powerful democracy in the world allegedly tried to steal an election.

We can’t say it often enough: This is serious. Americans cannot shrug this off or normalize it, no matter how many times Trump gets indicted. Yet it feels like business as usual. Not only is Trump favored to win the GOP presidential nomination, he’s also neck and neck with President Biden in the 2024 general election, according to a July poll by the New York Times/Siena Poll.

MORE THAN A CULT

Trump’s support cannot only be explained as the product of the cult-like power he has over his MAGA base, which accounts for roughly 40% of Republican voters who believe those indictments are nothing but a conspiracy against him.

more: https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article278265068.html

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Personal Opinion:

The USA is one of the countries where religion intersects very strongly with politics. His diehard supporters have elevated their support to a level of worship.

Anything he says is true and correct because He said it.

Anything he does is right and proper because He can do no wrong.

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I grew up around Republican evangelicals.

I’m a little bit with the dude with the blog post who said that the evangelical Christians should have recognised Trump as obviously the Antichrist. Mr. Trump is practically a physical incarnation of all Seven Deadly Sins. And he’s got seven towers, speaks blasphemy, consorts with foreign sex workers, promises greatness, …

(No links, because that same dude filled that blog post with lots of shitty ads.)

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Dude literally lived at 666 park avenue. Christians are stupid

Edit: 5th avenue, thanks blankets

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😮I looked this up! It was Fifth ave, but your point still stands. That’s so overt!
But I believe his cultists think they are the seven Trumpets in Revelation.

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No links needed. Everyone not in a cult sees all of that plain as day. You don’t even need to be religious to see it.

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I don’t think it’s “Americans”, it’s a brainwashed subset of Republicans who have been systematically fed an alternate reality for 30 years all the way back to “Hillary Clinton murdered Vince Foster!” (investigated by none other than Brett “I like beer, OK?” Kavanaugh) and “Janet Reno is really Chelsea Clinton’s father!”

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“Americans” also includes the subset that cry “both sides are the same” or are too apathetic to vote. If you don’t vote against the Republican party, then you are supporting what is happening.

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So in your eyes Biden is not a better alternative to Trump? Am I thrilled to be voting for Biden? No, not really. Will I vote for him over Trump? 1000% yes.

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So no balls to ever vote FOR something? Settle for bread crumbs when you can have the whole damn loaf

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Hard to pick out new wall paper when your house is on fire and burning down.

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It appears to be a very large subset that’s prepared to vote him in for a second term.

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It’s smaller than you think… keep in mind, the Republican party has been distilling down to a pure crazy base for years now…

So remember, when you see polls like “70% of registered Republicans think… x”, that’s what’s left after 20 years of rational conservatives leaving the party.

This isn’t the party of George Will or William F. Buckly, Jr. The academic conservatives are long gone now.

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It sure seems like those objectors leaving the party are good at holding their nose in the voting booth

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The other side of that is that lots of us have been calling for him to be held responsible for years. He never has been. Forgive me if I’m less than perfecly hopeful this time.

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4 indictments and 91 felonies is farther than we’ve gotten with any other Republican President in my lifetime.

Nixon - Watergate
Ford - Mostly Harmless
Reagan - October Surprise/Iran-Contra
Bush Sr. - Iran-Contra
Bush Jr. - Abu Ghraib war crimes

So I’ll take it!

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Ford was the corrupt deal to pardon Nixon, and Nixon also sabotaged the 1968 Paris Peace talks with the help of Henry Kissinger to extend the Vietnam War. The two also bombed Cambodia.

The two of them committed a lot of war crimes.

Nixon also started the war on drugs specifically as a way to harm the anti-war left and black people.

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Kitty Bush was in Dallas that Day https://youtu.be/0-Lvv1f5Qu4

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America democracy deserves to be mocked. Only the rich have a voice in government, MIC gets more aid than its own citizens, people are starving in the streets while capitalism feasts.

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I still like you. You speak how I feel.

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What’s MIC?

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Military Industrial Complex, companies like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrup Grumman. The war profiteers

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Nobody is shrugging this off. Those left of center are freaking out while the Nazis on the right are cheering him on.

Nobody is shrugging this off

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Nobody is shrugging this off

except the millions upon millions of people who can’t even be bothered to vote. I know the systemic vote suppression probably counts for a significant part of it, but honestly most of the rest are skirting their civic duty

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How about a pile of dog shit? If Trump had literally just let the medical experts speak instead of constantly downplaying COVID 19, thousands of people wouldn’t be dead now. A pile of dog shit would’ve at least had the courtesy of shutting the fuck up.

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Literally every alternative is better.

Even corporate bootlicker sleepy joe is making heaps of improvements in the US compared to Trump.

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Tell people’s conservative parents everywhere that. I know for sure mine are shruggers. At this point anything short of “damn it looks like you kids were right, I’m voting Democrat if I have to” is a shrug.

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Context matters. When they’re in a conversation with another person that they care for and are face-to-face, who is talking about a contrary point of view, logic and thinking is present in some small amount in their brain. They’ll actually think about the other person’s point, and then make the mental shrug about Trump and his crimes and their effect on his viability/reasonableness as a candidate.

If they’re in a group of other supporters, or on the internet, they very quickly do the republican/conservative thing of ‘falling in line’ and will try to publicly demonstrate (virtue signaling, aye?) how much they are part of the group and follow its standards.

I’ve had several conversations with my parents. When it is just me and one of them, I get a semi-reasonable conversation, but if another person is present, suddenly it’s like having a conversation with a fox news talking-head.

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You are lucky honestly. I think my parents double down because it’s me talking :/

And I’m definitely more disappointed and upset because it’s them, the people who supposedly raised me to be good.

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It’s baffling how dumb nearly half of the country is. I am definitely not smart but these people must just have nothing left in their skulls if they’re wanting to vote for Trump after all this.

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When they attack education for decades, you get a fair amount of dumb as a result. They were taught to obey and follow, party over all else.

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A good chunk of them are just mean and want liberals to suffer because they find them annoying.

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This is the majority of them honestly. They are just straight up fucking mean.

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Half the country by land area, not by population. Land matters more than people in our system. Gotta be fair to the empty land in the Dakotas and not give people health care, right?

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I dont think it is that simple. Some can probably be tied to education being demonized on one side. So to trust anyone with a degree becomes taboo, even doctors are not to be trusted at this point.

I think most of it comes down to the right wing news outlets saying anyone slightly to the left of them is working with the Christian devil to destroy america. So now your choice becomes not who best runs the country but a choice of good vs evil. Trump despite everything is smart enough to play directly into this with his rhetoric. He is the saviour the right needs to stop literal evil from taking over. How do you argue people out of voting for good? Its only getting worse it feels like.

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Think about how dumb the average American is and realize that half of them are stupider than that.

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that is… very accurate unfortunately.

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You cannot in good faith argue that Biden is on the same level of shittiness as Trump.

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