181 points

I have two, one is actually complicated and one was so obtuse that I never would have figured it out in a million years:

Actually complicated: I still don’t know how it happened, but somehow an update on Arch filled the boot partition with junk files, which then caused the kernel update to fail because of no disk space, which then kind of tanked the whole system. It took ages, but with a boot disk and chroot-ing back into the boot partition I eventually managed to untangle it all. I was determined to see it through and not reinstall.

Ridiculous: One day when using Ubuntu, the entire system went upside-down. As in, everything was working perfectly fine, but literally the screen was upside-down. After much Googling I had no luck figuring it out, then I accidentally found the solution - I’d plugged a PS4 controller into the USB on the laptop to charge it, and for some reason Ubuntu interpreted the gyroscope on the controller as “rotate the screen display” so when I moved it, the screen spun round. I only figured it out by accident when I plugged it back it and it spun back to normal lol.

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Ridiculous: One day when using Ubuntu, the entire system went upside-down. As in, everything was working perfectly fine, but literally the screen was upside-down. After much Googling I had no luck figuring it out, then I accidentally found the solution - I’d plugged a PS4 controller into the USB on the laptop to charge it, and for some reason Ubuntu interpreted the gyroscope on the controller as “rotate the screen display” so when I moved it, the screen spun round. I only figured it out by accident when I plugged it back it and it spun back to normal lol.

LMAO what the fuck?

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51 points

This deserves some sort of funniest Linux problem award.

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38 points

The controller thing is goddam hilarious

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20 points

Ridiculous

I had a similar one. I had a usb-powered fan cooling pad that my laptop was sitting on. My laptop would randomly go into boot loops when I turn it on. I thought it was a grub issue so I always had my usb stick ready to re-install grub. Did some dusting one day and forgot to plug in the cooling fan, then the boot loop never happened again. Turns out it was the fan plugged into the usb that was causing it.

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13 points

I think this is likely related to USB cables as power cables and USB ports/voltages.

I have seen a lamp completely fry a MacBook. I wouldn’t be surprised to see something similar cause a boot loop.

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Semi-related note… displayport cables can cause a no-boot condition too. I think it was the existence of Pin#1. I had to duct tape that one pin and my computer finally booted up.

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5 points

A couple years ago on Reddit I saw a story where a dude working IT support had to drive to a remote office or replace a workstation that wouldn’t boot. When he got there the lady whose desk it was had some shitty USB fan or maybe an led Christmas tree plugged into one of the USB ports. He unplugged that and the pc booted fine.

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This is up there with the redacted (just looked it up it’s called the 500-mile email)

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Ah I remember that one! Classic. I also remember a story about someone who lost an entire PC in their apartment. It was running and connected to the network, they could ping it, but couldn’t physically find it lol.

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😂 Please ping me if you find it (the story)…

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6 points

This is a phenomenal read. Thank you for sharing lol

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I manage a machine that runs both media transcodes and some video game servers.

The video game servers have to run in real-time, or very close to it. Otherwise players using them suffer noticeable lag.

Achieving this at the same time that an ffmpeg process was running was completely impossible. No matter what I did to limit ffmpegs use of CPU time. Even when running it at lowest priority it impacted the game server processes running at top priority. Even if I limited it to one thread, it was affecting things.

I couldn’t understand the problem. There was enough CPU time to go around to do both things, and the transcode wasn’t even time sensitive, while the game server was, so why couldn’t the Linux kernel just figure it out and schedule things in a way that made sense?

So, for the first time I read up on how computers actually handle processes, multi-tasking and CPU scheduling.

As FFMPEG is an application that uses ALL available CPU time until a task is done, I came to the conclusion that due to how context switching works (CPU cores can only do one thing, they just switch out what they do really fast, but this too takes time) it was causing the system to fall behind on the video game processes when the system was operating with zero processing headroom. The scheduler wasn’t smart enough to maintain a real-time process in the face of FFMPEG, which would occupy ALL available cycles.

I learned the solution was core pinning. Manually setting processes to run on certain cores of the CPU. I set FFMPEG to use only one core, since it doesn’t matter how fast it completes. And I set the game processes to use all but that one core, so they don’t accidentally end up queueing for CPU time on a core that doesn’t have the headroom to allow the task to run within a reasonable time range.

This has completely solved the problem, as the game processes and FFMPEG no longer wait for CPU cycles in the same queue.

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Well that’s interesting… I’d have thought, possibly naively, that as long as a thread had work to do it would essentially behave like ffmpeg does?

Perhaps there’s something about the type of work though, that it’s very CPU-bound or something?

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I think the difference is simply that most processes only have a certain amount that needs accomplishing in a given unit of time. As long as they can get enough CPU time, and do so soon enough after getting in line for it, they can maintain real-time execution.

Very few workloads have that much to do for that long. But I would expect other similar workloads to present the same problem.

There is a useful stat which Linux tracks in addition to a simple CPU usage percentage. The “load average” represents the average number of processes that have requested CPU time, but have to queue for it.

As long as the number is lower than the available number of cores, this essentially means that whenever one process is done running a task, the next in line can get right on with theirs.

If the load average is less than the number of cores available, that means the cores have idle time where they are essentially just waiting for a process to need them for something. Good for time-sensitive processes.

If the load average is above the number of cores, that means some processes are having to wait for several cycles of other processes having their turn, before they can execute their tasks. Interestingly, the load average can go beyond this threshold way before the CPU hits 100% usage.

I found that I can allow my system to get up to a load average of about 1.5 times the number of cores available, before you start noticing it when playing on one of the servers I run.

And whenever ffmpeg was running, the load average would spike to 10-20 times the number of cores. Not good.

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That makes complete sense - if you’ve got something ‘needy’, as soon as it’s queuing up, I imagine it snowballs, too…

10-20 times the core count is crazy, but I guess it’s had a lot of development effort into parallelizing it’s execution, which of course goes against what your use case is :)

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This reminded me of how I disabled processor cores in Process Lasso for programs

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I’ve found that the silliest desktop problems are usually the hardest to solve, and the “serious” linux system errors are the easiest.

System doesn’t boot? Look at error message, boot from a rescue disk, mount root filesystem and fix what you did wrong.

Wrong mouse cursor theme in some Plasma applications, ignoring your settings? Some weird font rendering issue? Bang your head against a wall exploring various dotfiles and rc files in your home directory for two weeks, and eventually give up and nuke your profile and reconfigure your whole desktop from scratch.

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16 points

I laughed so hard reading your comment. I totally agree.

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A couple of weeks ago I moved Firefox to one side. Window disappeared, but Firefox was still running “somewhere” on my desktop, but was not actually be rendered to the screen. Killing the process and relaunching just resulted in it be rendered to this weird black hole. Log out of gnome and log back in? Same! Reboot? Same!

Ended up deleting it’s config folder and re-attaching to Firefox sync in order to have it working again. No idea what went wrong, nor will I ever most likely.

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4 points

There really should be a hotkey for “move window to primary display” or somesuch. The worst is when just the top “cleat” of the window is inaccessible, making it impossible to simply move the window yourself.

Alternately, a CLI tool to just trash a specific app’s window settings, or a system control panel that lets you browse these settings, would be incredible.

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In every GUI I’ve used, there are tiling or snapping hotkeys, something like Super + Arrow keys or something, that will usually put the window somewhere sane.

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2 points

Hold down meta and you can drag the window from anywhere (on gnome at least thats a default)

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I feel like i had a disappearing window like that a lifetime ago and the fix was to change the resolution. I don’t know if that uncovered the void to the right or forced the window to reassign itself to usable space. But it worked then. Hell, it could have been windows for all I recall.

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Btw, QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR set to 0 breaks your Qt apps.

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3 points

Yeah for some reason a single game ignores the system sound settings and goes straight to a line out. My system doesn’t see that the game is outputting sound and I can’t change it. (Arch with KDE)

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Somewhat related on windows 11, for some reason teams volume will desync from system volume. I’ll put system volume to 0 and still be hearing teams. It’s the same audio device being selected. I don’t understand why it would ever work that way but here we are

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Oh my god, you’ve put it into (really nice) words something I’ve felt since quite some time now. I’ve no trouble (in fact even joy) when something major is fucked up. But all this GUI shenanigans, I’ve usually no idea where to even begin. The lack of structure and hierarchy completely flummoxes me. Or maybe I just don’t have enough experience debugging userland stuff

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Around 2017 I spent three days on and off trying to diagnose why my laptop running elementary OS had no wifi support. I reinstalled the wifi drivers and everything countless times. It worked for many days initially then just didn’t one day when I got on the laptop. Turns out I had accidentally flipped the wifi toggle switch while it was in my bag. I forgot the laptop had one. Womp womp.

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I had a friend come over to my place to fix her laptops wifi. After about an hour searching for any setting in windows that i could have missed, i coincidentally found a forum where one pointed out this could be due to a hardware wifi switch…

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8 points

Womp womp.

I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they’re not much bigger than 2 meters.

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36 points

Grub.

Seriously. Tha was some fat as shit because I didn’t know what I was doing.

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I broke my bootloader fucking with uefi settings. I was in a panic for a few hours because I hadn’t bothered to learn how that shit worked until then.

It sure was a relief when i got back into my system.

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Bricked my pc twice because of the bootloader and couldn’t repair it. From now on i just nuke my system if something is fucky and have a shell script do the installing of packages etc.

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