Here’s a table I adapted from Louis Rossman’s video on the levels of piracy, grey areas and his morals and ethics on it. (spreadsheet file)

I tried to condense each rank and make it less about a specific type of media like CD audio or DVD video, along with a table of simplified characteristics of each situation. Of course more levels can be added and there are many situations not covered. This hierarchy is simply the way Louis ordered it from more to less justifiable; he respects people can think about it differently and I do too. He suggests that he doesn’t really care about people that pirate without giving a shit about creators, and that he only has a problem with people who aren’t honest with themselves about their motivations.

Setting legality aside, what ‘level of piracy’ is morally or ethically acceptable to you?

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I can’t stand Rossman’s videos; but I respect the hell out of his ideas, principles, and efforts to better the slices of technological life that he cares about.

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I don’t agree with everything he says but he does stick to his principles well.

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he does stick to his principles well.

He’s an open source advocate but made his grayjay app closed source.

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He has also started paying for YouTube Premium again, despite making I believe two videos on why it’s bad. Oddly enough, I noticed it in the video where he talks about his friend who repaired childhood photos of his.

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what ‘level of piracy’ is morally or ethically acceptable to you?

If I could, I would download a car.

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Cars are bad for the environment, please download bicycles instead.

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Good point … also I don’t have a driver’s licence anyway.

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You wouldn’t download a driver’s licence.

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…an electric car?

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I do not know about the video but i can’t agree with this table. Even if you don’t buy it an artist work should be spread if you’re not the one buying it by talking about it or just seeding you’ll allow someone to support the author. This makes piracy look like some grey thing, IT IS NOT.

Support the artists and if you can’t or don’t want to, spread the word this is how it works.

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When someone says piracy or “using an unauthorized copy of someone’s work” it can be for many different reasons.

On the moral and ethical side (as I’m leaving out the legality aspect from the discussion) some of these situations may sit well with some people, some may not. The list of situations themselves are adapted from Louis’s free-market viewpoint. He has articulated in the past that people that bring something of value should be awarded in kind, and spreading the word to drive sales justifies using work without paying to him is like paying a professional photographer in “exposure”.

I can understand if you disagree with the premise of the chart because of the above, it’s just the basis from which I formed it.

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What’s the significance of the colors? Greenish = “stealing”, orange = “okay”, yellow = “grey area”? Seems awfully negative, maybe invert the whole thing.

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The colours have only partial relevance to whether it’s more or less ethical in the context of piracy. The colours signify more what is better for that category specifically. Having no DRM is better than not, supporting a creator is better than not, having it availble to buy or rent is better than having it discontinued, as a few examples.

Green = Good for that category, Red = Bad, Yellow = Mixed, Grey = Not good nor bad.

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Good for that category

According to whom? For example the premise of the last question is “I want free shit and don’t care about the creator”. So how is “not putting money forward” a negative? It’s the core of the outcome I wanted.

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I totally understand that. But the colouring is for the category column and not in the context of the situation row, and since the column is about putting money forward or not, Yes is positive and No is negative.

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