150 points

Blogspam that links to a ‘news’ website that just regurgitates this reddit thread. Somebody explain to me why is this upvoted so heavily.

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69 points

Windows bad, updoots to the left

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43 points

I mean the minute you see “Copilot bad, from windowscopilot[dot]news” should surely raise some flags

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35 points

Coz noone reads that stuff besides the title.

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12 points

The vibe is right tho lol

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16 points

This is the high quality journalism we want

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7 points

powered with state-of-the-art AI

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2 points

The real journalism is always in the comments. Or how did that go?

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9 points

Windows bad, ai bad. Upvote. Thought isn’t a big consideration here.

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8 points

Lemmy sucks at sourcing but rocks at being opinionated.

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104 points

I put Copilot on MY taskbar —Microsoft

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66 points

Exactly. It’s Microsoft ffs. They don’t care what consumers want. The only time they do anything truly beneficial is when the EU makes them.

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The only time they do anything truly beneficial is when the EU makes them.

Except when they make programming languages

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9 points

I mean sure, c# is better than java, but c# also makes you dependant on MS and all their shenanigans. Java is free of such burdens. Oracle sure is a dependency, but you’re free pick another vendor or fork your own.

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25 points

Really trying not to be that “use Linux” person, but it’s easy to underestimate the impact this has on user perception. It was communicated to me by these actions that this isn’t my computer. It kept pissing me off, so I went with something that respects me.

I think Microsoft is okay with that because their operating system isn’t a main profit center anymore. It’s cloud stuff.

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15 points

The Win10 machine I got in 2020 will be my last Windows computer now that gaming on Linux is basically solved.

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3 points

Can you tell me how gaming on Linux is solved? It’s the only reason I use windows still.

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6 points

I’m pretty sure Windows is a key part of their “cloud stuff” strategy. You are right that consumers are not the direct focus of Windows, since they are not the direct paying audience, and that shows in the direction Windows is going, but getting consumers to use Windows is a big part of creating corporate buy in for Microsoft cloud services. Corporate environments will shun Microsoft cloud services if employees can’t use Windows, or Windows features run afoul of corporate policies (like blanket LLM bans).

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4 points

Over the years, Microsoft has been quietly taking away control from the users.

There’s been a transition from normal settings that you can do whatever you want with, to “yes / remind me later” settings that Microsoft uses to badger you until you submit, to finally just no setting at all - just quiet compulsory data collection and surveillance; with various bits of mysterious software that you can’t uninstall or disable or halt - because you’re not the admin - Microsoft is.

It wasn’t always this way.

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It’s not even good for non technical users. Microsoft takes admin responsibility, but then they manage it poorly by applying updates that haven’t been properly tested and using your system as the guinea pig.

I’ve seen this happen to family. Forced update comes in, breaks system.

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71 points

How many times are we going to have to teach you this lesson, old man. Don’t fuck with the task bar.

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Even the small things. When work upgraded to Win11 overnight and I logged into the Start being in the middle, I almost lost it. Yes, I could fix it, and a few other things, but I had a moment.

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I understand it’s not for everyone but I jumped ship to Linux 10 years ago or so. The defining moment was me disabling Cortana only to have her reappear after an update.

At least with Linux when I’m fighting the OS it doesn’t feel like the OS developers are fighting back.

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7 points

Ironically, Microsoft would later remove Cortana itself in an update.

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7 points

Same motivation here, but it took me until last year to make the switch. Pushing Office on me combined with all the good things I’ve been hearing about gaming on Linux was enough to push me over. I installed in dual boot, but I have never wanted to nor had the need to boot into my Windows install in at least three months.

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6 points

I use Arch BTW

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4 points

Switched to Fedora at the beginning of the year and couldn’t be happier.

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2 points

Yep. I tolerated Edge reinstalling itself for a long time. I used 3rd party tools to try to make Windows my own, but they failed repeatedly.

If MS would sell me a license to own my computer, I would buy it, but they don’t offer that. Instead it’s ads and spam and data collection. And I want nothing to do with that.

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11 points

They killed the vertical task bar with that update, which seems like such a pointless thing to disable.

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6 points

I don’t mind the taskbar in the middle, it’s like Apple’s dock. What I really hate, is the news popup on the left… and I don’t even mind the floating Start menu, I’ve been using MadAppLauncher for like a decade or more.

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3 points

Man. Work moved us to windows 11 and you couldn’t ungroup windows on the taskbar… We use RPG / as400 and throughout the day you’ll end up with 4-5 windows… having them all grouped is annoying when I have to hover over a popup to see which window I need.

Googling revealed that win11 wasn’t shipped with that functionality and it was only patched into the operating system in late q3 of last year.

So annoying and a huge productivity hit for me.

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3 points

Guess no one at Microsoft realized people use computers differently and more options is always better than one. Or they intended to have the option and either forgot to include it or it was buggy. Either way it was #2 on my “how do you disable this” list, and I had to deal with it for a while. I get how grouping can be good for some things, but when you want to be able to bounce between various windows and some happen to use the same app, it was a pain.

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I hadn’t minded it if it were on the center. As you know, it was actually somewhere around the center, changing its position every time I added an icon or whatever in the taskbar. And they were proud enough to call it a UX revolution. WTAF…

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I logged into the Start being in the middle

I’m sorry, what!?

At this rate, I’m definitely going to hold onto 10 until they *pry it away from me.

(Yes, I use Linux as well but gaming isn’t perfect on it, etc…)

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4 points

if you feel comfortable mucking about in your BIOS, disabling TPM will pretty much guarantee they don’t spring 11 on you. they are really dead set on that requirement for some reason.

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5 points

IT don’t like it. Lock the taskbar. Lock the taskbar.

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1 point

What lesson is that? That MS can do whatever they want and there’s fuck-all you can do about it?

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1 point

How did that work for Windows 8?

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55 points

I actually thought Microsoft was doing pretty well 2015-2020, then these past few years some of their decisions have felt really anti user

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It’s perfect timing too. Right as Linux becomes an extremely strong competitor (feature wise, not market share yet) they decide to enshitify more than they already were and decide to fuck the user. It made me leave about a year ago, and it’s been amazing since.

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5 points

This is why they are doing it. They fear that Linux/MacOS/ChromeOS is eating their lunch. The problem is that their approach to preventing anyone else from eating their lunch is to make Shit Sandwiches.

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4 points

Year of the Linux desktop!

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3 points

Honestly the steam deck came out at the perfect time

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26 points

They were doing ok. But the github thing and the 11 thing and the edging and now this - I can’t wait to buy a machine that can run windows virtualised. I need it for my work apps, but this virt thing has been a dream of mine for a long time. Compartmentalization

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15 points

How do YOU edge?

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9 points

Microsoft edges me.

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1 point

Step one: start Chroming. Eventually you get so high (kill enough brain cells) that you chrome with blue paint instead. That is called Edging.

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4 points

github thing?

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4 points

Yeah, what happened with GitHub?

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2 points

Bought github, doing shitty ai crap with it etc, forcing logins

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2 points

I hated them since Windows 8. Ughh. Was the year of my Linux desktop. I still keep a Win7, WinXP and DOS/Win98 machine around but that’s it for me.

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Microsoft, forever and always, will keep trying to pivot Windows to whatever they think the Next Big Thing is going to be, and then fuck it up every time. They tried to pivot to Mobile (Windows Mobile), then Tablets (8, 8.1), then digital assistants (Win 10 Cortana), then 3D (Win 10 Paint3D, 3D Objects folder) and AR (why a bunch of Win10 got the semitransparent glass aesthetic), now AI. Maybe they got ahead of the curve enough to be the “leader” in “AI” this time, but that doesn’t make it a Good Operating System.

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53 points

Hey, wake up! The new Clippy skin just dropped!

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27 points

I see you’re trying to embarrass yourself with a reply to a really important email. Want help with that?

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12 points

Wake up, developer. We have an OS to burn.

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4 points

You are breathtaking!

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I’d probably use it if it had a clippy skin tbh.

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No it didn’t… but that IS the plan.

I have to say I’m not particularly against it either… AS LONG AS they let me pick alternative AI backbends, like they have been forced to do with web browsers (antitrust attorneys, get ready).

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