Hey everyone,

So, for a bit of context I’ve used every smartphone I’ve owned until it was dead in the sense that the hardware wasn’t repairable anymore. The realme6 pro I’m using at the moment is currently on life support so it’s time to look for a replacement.

Here’s some criteria for what it’s important to me:

  • I’m not a phone gamer, I don’t care how well it runs Genshin Impact or PUBG, but I do use emulators like Citra.
  • I don’t really care about photography, any fancy camera is a bonus, it’s not something I normally would consider when comparing phones.
  • Wireless charging would be nice since from experience charging ports are a common point of failure. It’s not necessarily a must however.
  • A micro-sd and headphone jack would be nice to have, but I’m ready to sacrifice that if the phone has decent storage.
  • Bloatware and weird proprietary forced, subscription/AI/ads bullshit baked into the default OS are a big no from me. I’m not as hardcore as some of the Lemmings I’ve met, but I do value privacy.
  • Little extras such as an IR blaster, notification slider, or maybe some fun little gimmick like the glyph interface on Nothing phones is of medium importance to me. I like to tinker too, so any decent customization options is a plus.

I don’t need a top of the line flagship, I’m looking for a midrange phone that’s available in Canada. With that in mind, I had some ideas already:

  • Nothing phone 2, this one seems fun and ticks most boxes for me. What’s holding me back is the 3-4 years of updates (but that seems standard enough nowadays) and the relatively high price. If you can ease my mind and tell me I’ll still be able to comfortably use this phone in 2028+ I might get this.
  • One plus 12R, I like the specs and price on this one. What worries me is the bloat I’ve seen mentioned. Has anyone had experience with their android flavour? If so, is it feasible to remove/deactivate all useless apps?
  • Pixel phones, I haven’t researched these enough to decide on a model though. I might give GrapheneOS a try if I end up using a Pixel, I’m impressed by the 7 years of Android updates too. What’s holding me back however, is the lack of “fun” compared to my other options, no IR blaster or distinguishing features makes it equal to my other options.

With all that said, any other recommendations are very welcome. Looking forward to reading your thoughts :)

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Yes, bloatware can be disabled easily with Universal Android Debloat

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Thanks Didn’t know that.

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That’s great to know! Thanks

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I second this.

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Samsung galaxy A15 5G, Cheap phone (~180$), micro-sd, headphone jack, good software support (4 OS updates, 5 years security updates), good battery, 1080p amoled 90Hz 800 nits.

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After checking out some reviews on this one in particular I think it’s a pretty nice value. Good to know there’s still affordable phones out there. I do have some extra budget lying around so I think I’ll look into something a bit fancier this time.

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Then samsung galaxy a35.

Samsung phones nowadays are one of the best software support on every budget, starting with the A15 4G (~150€) with 5 years to the flagship, S24 ultra with 7 years.

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Do beware, Samsung typically has a decent amount of bloat and not so privacy respecting services.

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I think the Pixel line is great if you don’t like bloat, and they offer you lots of flexibility because you can replace the entire operating system without the hardware fighting you every step of the way. They are intended to be excellent development phones, and the aftermarket rims on these devices are very stable and well-maintained because they benefit from Google’s investment in maintaining the reference images.

The Pixel I had developed an issue where it didn’t maintain a stable cellular connection, but I still love the product line.

I do sense some conflict in your requirements, however. One man’s “fun feature” is another man’s bloat. I’m not saying that your process is flawed, rather, that it’s a very personal decision.

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That’s true about “fun”, it’s very subjective but I’d say that bloat in my case strictly refers to software and not extra hardware, something like the difference between a ringtone store app and a couple of extra LEDs on the back.

On another note, I’ve seen a few reviews mentioning Pixels developing problems over time but nothing major AFAIK. Do you still use your Pixel? If not, what made you change it?

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I’ve used a Pixel 4 and 6 and never had them develop problems over time. If anything they’ve gotten better; the 6 had a green tint to the screen that was fixed in a system update. (Before that I’d been using an app to adjust the time.)

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How about a ruggedized industrial Android phone?

Cat S42 H+

Has:

  • 3.5mm jack
  • microSD card slot
  • IP68
  • MIL SPEC 810H
  • Dual SIM

I see price on Amazon US is $168

If you want really fancy features, the higher end model has a FLIR thermal camera built into it.

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It doesn’t support 5G and 3GB of RAM is not very future proof.

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I remember a while ago I looked into this kind of phone and it did look pretty attractive to me. I might look for some more info on their performance thought.

Thanks for the suggestion :)

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In Canada, probably a Pixel 8. You can find new ones for cheaper on Marketplace. The upcoming 8a might be a good deal too.

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