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I never liked Tesla.

The cars never were meant to be for “Joe Average” and “Daily Family Business” but “Toys for Wanna-Be-Social-Warriors”.

Too expensive, too little practical use. I would take a Mitsubishi Space Star all day over a Tesla. Even the gasoline version is more ecological friendly in the long run. They go for €7000 in the smallest version and run for DECADES with little repairs and only use 2.5 to 3.5 L/100km and have like five times more storage room than even the largest Tesla.

Tesla? No thanks.


And yes, the Space Star literally has NO computer capabilities at all. It is barely above a 1970th VW beetle. But I tell you something: I fucking don’t care. It is a car, it does car things like driving and hauling, it is not an entertainment device. It is cheap, fucking robust, easy to repair, uses little fuel and lives for decades (my aunt drove her Space Star for 35 years and 250000km and it was only scrapped after my aunt died of old age). For computer stuff, navigation, entertainment I have my smart phone which I clip into a holder and have 10 times more usability than any other car computer system I have ever seen.

I see no point in paying ten times more for little gain at all.

Also pretty much any computer integration in cars I have seen are massively overpriced and often abnormal bad. The only one doing the IT stuff right are the French producers like Peugeot and Renault, they include the biggest package in all cars without additional fees and it works pretty well. All cars having the same system is a great bone because you immediately feel at home everywhere. Also they are fair priced, in comparison to a lot of American and German cars.

Btw, I have been working for BMW a lot. Even drove several prototypes for several months as a payment bone. But even when they offered me car for half the price: No thanks. I’d rather invest my money in something lasting like real estate, stocks and such.

Same goes for my family, brothers, cousins, aunts, uncles. I asked them what their expensive cars could to better and it was usually “well, it is a VW, it is a Ford, it is a whatever… and that is great” but when asked what it does BETTER… silence. Some decided to go cheap on cars after thinking about it, others decided they needed a bigger car to compensate something. Well, everyone is his lucks smith.

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I don’t think this is having a meaningful effect. Tesla’a biggest marketplace is China, and I doubt they care about American politics. It is more likely that China is discouraging people from buying Teslas due to American threats to ban Tiktok.

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That’s delivery of vehicles. Aren’t they famously way behind with long wait times? Actual sales figures would be a better gauge.

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But the survey and my confirmation bias say that people don’t like Teslas anymore…

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You may have facts but there are like 10 people here saying they won’t buy a Tesla so…

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You’re a quarter behind. Big drop 2024Q1, but you’re right that the story has been growth - just slower growth than Tesla has promised, even with massive price cuts, and now we have a contraction. A lot of people dislike Elon because he’s a fucking tool and this has to be a partial factor, we just don’t really know how much.

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According to CNBC, deliveries have dropped 8.5% compared to Q1 2023. That’s awesome! I would love to see their sales continue to plummet.

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Its kind of hard to find recent data but if you look at all car companies it’s pretty much par

https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics/flash_sales/automotive-sales-in-usa-by-month

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I live in the most Tesla filled city in the world. I’m a fucking dick to them. I’m sorry, but if you’re buying into that Nazi’s cult and I have the choice of being my usual kind self, or taking the opportunity to go ahead of you, cut you off, etc., I’m going to do the latter.

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People are realizing how shitty Tesla is because of Musk’s shitty behavior

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