A newly released game industry report by market researcher Newzoo shows that while the PC and console market grew 2.6 percent in 2023, overall playtime decreased as gamers spent more and more time in a smaller list of old games like Fortnite* *and League of Legends.

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New games are very expensive and not that much better than older games.

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I would actually say that they tend to be considerably worse.

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Games that are just MVPs with a massive, fully featured microtransaction store, often featuring a story by committee, visuals that arent any better than five years ago, shitty ai, filled to the brim with bugs, and all running at less than 60 fps on good hardware.

Fuck new big games.

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I’ll take a 10 hour to finish, passion project by an indie dev over AAA every time.

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While I did put some time into a new game last year, I like my comfort games that I’ve played a million times before.

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I don’t know if we’re there, but I would expect the game market to mature over time. If you think about it, it’s a little odd for every year to see a new product that everyone wants to switch to over all products made in the past. I mean, I don’t discard my chairs or my dinner plates to get new and better ones each year.

Many industries saw change as the result of the introduction of the microchip and Moore’s law. If your computing capabilities increased exponentially over time, if you could figure out how to leverage computation – and that is something that video games could definitely leverage – you could do a lot more every year.

For a long time, that translated directly to an increase in the rate of serial computation capacity, doubling about every year-and-a-half. The rapid rate of exponential increase that we had seen for decades fell off in the early 2000s, as I recall.

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Yeah:

https://preshing.com/images/integer-perf.png

A lot of the increases in performance that we’ve seen since then have been through improving parallel computation capacity, which isn’t quite as much of a “free” performance increase – it doesn’t apply to all problems, and for problems to which it does apply, it may take real work to make it apply.

The difference between a computer made in 1990 being used in 2000 is just larger than between a computer made in 2010 used in 2020.

Video games faced a lot of technical limitations that were being rapidly stripped away; for a long time, all a video game needed to do was to convert that new, free processing power into something interesting and it could outshine its predecessors.

I suppose that in theory, there could be some sort of new enabling technology that comes along that permits for a lot of new stuff on a continuing basis but that’s a big ask. Maybe virtual reality would have done it for video games – though I don’t know if that would have been a one-off or a continuous, exponential increase – but so far, I think that it’s fair to say that VR hasn’t really taken off in the way that some have hoped.

The shift to touch screens also created demand for games that were touch-screen friendly.

But input changes like that are rare. Lots of companies have tried it, and they haven’t really taken off – the mouse-and-keyboard on PCs has stayed pretty much the same for decades. Consoles – where a single console vendor can force an entire market to switch to a new input device, doesn’t have the collective action problem of PCs where it’s hard to get the entire industry to switch at once, so few game developers want to target a new platform with few users and create a chicken-and-egg problem between few games and few users with hardware – have seen small changes, like an increase in buttons and introduction of analog sticks and triggers.

And it’s not that touch screens are producing large, exponential changes in some industry-shattering way that open new doors to game developers in a given year that were closed to developers in past years. Maybe the shift to multi-touch screens, but again, not really an annual event.

We switched to solid-stage storage. That probably opens doors to make streaming media off the disk more-practical; with rotational media, to do that, one had to have a pretty good idea of what one needed to load in advance to order it on-disk. But again, one-and-done.

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Fully agreed. There is certainly much more need for solid stories and gameplay than there was before. A mid-level game could wow an audience when it incorporated new tech, but now making the trees slightly more leafy isn’t having the same effect.

Consoles – where a single console vendor can force an entire market to switch to a new input device, doesn’t have the collective action problem of PCs

The biggest changes that come to mind are the XBox camera which was quickly rejected by customers and the Wii pointer remote which didn’t survive to the next generation. Controller and mouse/keyboard just seem to work. Even with the collective action requirement removed, we return to these proven inputs.

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To be fair, the remote was always just one-side of a controller, it didn’t change much, but they provided two things.

  1. a way to put them together into a controller format

  2. a first party controller with all the same mechanical features

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The only recent blockbuster I can think of is Baldur’s Gate III. I (and many others) have certainly sunk a bunch of time into it, but, outside of that game, almost everything else is a good bit older.

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In a way BG3 has been out for years tho.

Lots of PC players pre-ordered to get act 1

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Starfield, Diablo IV, Cyberpunk, AC games, COD games.

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Starfield, Diablo IV, Cyberpunk, AC games, COD games.

None of these spark joy, with the possible exception of Cyberpunk, but that was simply an expansion. I’m more excited about the idea of replaying Subnautica for the fourth time than anything else on that list.

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Final Fantasy XVI and Super Mario Wonder were two that played through last year into this year.

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Was shocked to see how prolific retro gaming has become, then read the article summary lol

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