-12 points

I am all for it. Just wish it didn’t take a genocide for his numbers to dip far enough to need the PR boost

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The “genocide” blame is bullshit, mostly from trolls and the deliberately uninformed. Biden has been all over Israel from the start to not react “over the top”.

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9 points

Which part of US leadership supports Israel, then? I mean, backing them at the UN, shipping weapons and stuff? Genuine question, just because from the outside looking in, it really seems like it’s the US and only the US propping up Israel right now.

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It’s still bipartisan, sadly. 100% of the GOP are behind Israel, and maybe 50% of Dem leadership at this point.

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3 points

Stupidest fucking thing I’ve read on lemmy.

But, that is to be expected from someone evil enough to put genocide in quotes.

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5 points

Biden has definitely been all over israel, as in all over kissing their ass for his entire career.

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6 points

This is obvious disinformation.

The fact that you put genocide in quotes says everything anyone needs to know about your non-existent morality.

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He has been working on student loan forgiveness well before the Gaza conflict

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Biden has been against it far longer than he’s been for it. I’m voting for him, but let’s not pretend he’s a good guy here. He had his opportunities to do something and he refused, despite his fellow Democrats begging him to act. He refused to extend the time for the payback; him and no one else.

He has never stated that he’s changed his position - he’s just thrown out soundbites like he’s done so far. No actual action has taken place other than what was already happening without him. He’s sped up some already existing processes. Whoopee.

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He literally forgave $146k from my wife’s student loans, after predatory student loan advisors had her refinance her loans years ago, claiming she would qualify for 20 year forgiveness, but in reality didn’t qualify. She just realized about 4-5years ago and got back on the right track, but it was going to be 20 years from then.

You hand wave the effect that his express actions have had on real, hard working and struggling citizens. I’m here to tell you that they have had a major affect on our lives, and have honored the spirit of the deal that she entered, and had been cheated out of. And there are many, many others.

And this is speaking as someone who was fortunate enough to have my parents pay for my education in full. I have never been burdened by student debt, and I view it is an absolutely wonderful and vital action to ensure that the US retains its status as one of the most highly educated work forces in the world.

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-22 points

Aaaaaaaaaand where’s he gotten with it?

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“Try.”

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-16 points

The headline: “Biden passes new round of student loan forgiveness!”

The article: “Asian American rail workers earning between $5000 and $7000 per year, who are veterans of the Vietnam War and are currently experiencing homelessness, will now have their student loans forgiven under Biden’s new sweeping legislation.”

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41 points

Well, he has been very successful at it so far. Why doubt him this time around?

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34 points

Because it’s easier to rag on Biden than it is to actually educate oneself on what’s been accomplished.

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0 points

For me it’s a case of “I’ll believe it when I see it.” Not ragging on Biden, I believe he’s earnest in his desire to do something about student loan debt, but it’s all the road blocks that are put in his way. A lot of people don’t want student loan debt relief for whatever reason.

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8 points

You’d rather he doesn’t?

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-6 points

Democrats “try” all sorts of shit they know has no chance of succeeding and then fumble golden opportunities. Joe Biden is a politician and a trash human being. He created the student debt problem.

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0 points

I’d rather he not get credit for things he over-promises on and under-delivers.

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Good. So you’re fine with what he’s doing. He promised exactly what he did. The supreme court killed his original plan which he did try to execute, so that’s on the court, not him.

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Oh, just in time for another election…gee, what a coincidence.

And, if by some miracle, he doesn’t lose to Trump, he’ll be just fine and dandy when some “administrative/process complication” blocks it, just like last time.

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14 points

This is a giant L take.

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I hope you’re young and this is your idealism talking, otherwise you’re just delusional.

I’ve been through too many election cycles, and worked on enough campaigns, to see this as anything but the empty campaign rhetoric that it is.

But hey, please come back and rub this “L” in my face if that promised debt relief ever comes through.

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You must have missed it. When he tried the first time, the Supreme Court stopped him. It wasn’t a conspiracy by Biden’s administration. And since then his administration has been successfully canceling student loan debt for certain subsections of the population.

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That darn court, jeepers. If only Democrats had other levers of power at their disposal…gosh, just bad luck that they’re always able to help out their donors, but just can’t push through major legislation for the rest of us…

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You clearly have no understanding of how the American political system works, and have not actually followed any actual domestic events.

I’m terrified that you have a right to vote. You’re an idiot. Please go buy a gram of weed and bring it to your nearest police officer so you may be arrested and have your right to vote revoked. You do not deserve it.

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5 points

Did you forget he started another legal process that is underway and takes time to complete?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/30/biden-revive-student-debt-relief-00104482

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-22 points

If Democrats were as persistent in pursuing the policies they claim they support as Biden has been about this issue (and only this issue), we would have a living wage nationwide and universal healthcare.

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29 points

Democrats are not a monolith. They are a mix of progressives, liberals, and common sense conservatives.

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-9 points

Their results indicate that they are sufficiently monolithic that my comment holds true.

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Lol

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7 points

If it was a monolith, we’d have abortion rights federally and a livable minimum wage. Conservative Democrats have blocked a lot of that shit over the last 30 years. Not to mention that we’d have a much more progressive inflation reduction act. And do you not remember the whole Obama care fiasco?

I’m sorry you don’t actually pay attention to politics. But maybe you should educate yourself instead of just getting angry at headlines.

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14 points

The party holds socialists as well, although you guys do treat us more as hostages sometimes, lol.

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I see socialists as a subset of progressives. And you’re not wrong. I wish the the two parties were progressives (including socialists) and liberals instead of normies and crazies.

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-22 points

https://educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-statistics

Best of luck trying to eliminate the problem you helped create, Joe. Looks like you made a nice little dent in 2023!

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12 points

He’s doing a lot more than any Republican would ever do.

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He better, seeing as how he was a critical part of the problem: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020

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-12 points

People in here really want us to give the guy a medal for making bare minimum fixes to a problem he created.

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14 points

Prior to 2020, that line has an r^2 of 1, so I’d say he’s doing a great job at breaking the trend.

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Wasn’t there just an article on here about how the richest 1% of Americans (maybe it was globally) made 14.xx trillion in 2023? So 10% of that wealth from a single year could wipe out all student debt. I bet that’s less than what they evade in tax liability.

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You’ve unironically shown that he is making an impact. Since taking office the rate of increase slowed down to the point that actual debt has gone down.

Presidents can seldom make decisions that show immediate results and drop things instantly, especially if they don’t also have Congress. Where you can see their effect is on the derivative of numbers like this, and that is a decidedly better graph.

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