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This journal, under the leadership of Kenneth Zucker, a noted anti-trans figure known for his involvement in reparative/conversion therapy

Oy, this guy again. Of course it is.

For another look at this guy’s past “work”, here’s a video from JammyDodger https://youtu.be/39QZYk9XDYk

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The study ultimately reveals that approximately 12% of 11-year-old children, with some variance between those assigned male at birth and those assigned female at birth, indicate a desire to be the opposite sex either “sometimes” or “often,” with the vast majority selecting “sometimes.” By adulthood, this percentage decreases to 2-3%.

Wow, very debunked and fact checked, lol.

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Since you seemed to miss what exactly was meant by the headline:

Unfortunately, the headline fails a fact check: the study was not about transgender individuals, but rather on people who sometimes express dissatisfaction with their sex for a variety of reasons entirely unrelated to being transgender.

To complete the paragraph you grabbed from:

In addition, 19% of the sample circle sometimes or often at some point in their lives. From these findings, the Daily Mail infers that “The majority of gender-confused children grow out of that feeling by the time they are fully grown adults,” although the term “gender confused” is not used in the original study. The headline, which claims “Critics Say It Shows Being Trans Is Just a Phase,” suggests that the study supports this notion.

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Unfortunately, the headline fails a fact check: the study was not about transgender individuals, but rather on people who sometimes express dissatisfaction with their sex for a variety of reasons entirely unrelated to being transgender.

Yeah, the author is making that up though, drawing conclusion based on their own biases. The question is not “do you feel dissatisfied with your sex”. It’s asking, directly, about the surveyed’s desire to be the opposite sex. Which is literally what it means to be transgender.

The second quote is just semantic straw-grasping “the study didn’t use the literal words ‘gender confused’!”

Please. It is completely fair to describe “desire to be the opposite sex” as gender confusion, especially in years of childhood where one’s sense of self is in active development.

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Being transgender is a constant and persistent condition. Even for genderfluid people the “fluidity” needs to be repeatable. If a girl/woman suffering from cramps during her period thinks “I wish I was a boy/man so that I didn’t need to suffer through this every month”, she doesn’t become trans because of it.

And “gender confusion” isn’t a fair description. It’s basically saying “they are wrong about what they’re feeling”. And you’re not a telepath to know that

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The question is not “do you feel dissatisfied with your sex”. It’s asking, directly, about the surveyed’s desire to be the opposite sex. Which is literally what it means to be transgender.

So gender dysphoria is not a thing then? You don’t even have a base understanding of what you’re talking about.

The second quote is just semantic straw-grasping “the study didn’t use the literal words ‘gender confused’!”

It’s important because wanting to be the opposite sex “sometimes to often” is an entirely different beast from being gender confused.

Please. It is completely fair to describe “desire to be the opposite sex” as gender confusion, especially in years of childhood where one’s sense of self is in active development.

Is it also fair to lump gender confusion with being transgender, and then make the conclusion that “being trans is just a phase”?

Notice how every step of your argument relies on saying that two distinct things are “fair to describe” as being the same. Eventually the results of a survey that asks “have you ever wanted to be the opposite sex” proves that transgenderism is a phase.

If a child said they wanted to be the opposite sex, and then as an adult said they did not, it doesn’t mean they ever were transgender, or changed back from being transgender. It’s an entirely different thing altogether.

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