20 points

Mixed feelings on this, as a user of simplelogin, proton and standard notes as individual services for the last 4+ years I love them all, and trust proton.

However one of the key reasons for choosing those services was they were isolated, and without risk of vendor lock in or single points of failure… Depending how this goes it could be great, I just hope they don’t force/push integration with proton too much. Maybe I’m just being a FUD pusher. Certainly equally a chance this is great for both proton and StandardNotes. SN has lacked development on a fair few plugins recently so hopefully this aids that.

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8 points

I appreciate this perspective and that was also my immediate reaction. Then I realized, as long as I can easily export my data and move elsewhere, I shouldn’t be too concerned.

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This is very true, and SN does do that. That said I have hundreds of notes in SN… Its essentially my life at this point so its heavily integrated and would be both a shame and a pain to migrate! Here’s hoping its positive for all involved though and this is a needless concern!

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I dunno, Google Takeout exists, and I still have plenty of concerns about their offerings.

Oddly, Google Keep Notes isn’t included in Takeout…

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Google nearly went through trouble to make sure that takeout is a pain in the ass to import anywhere else.

As a matter of fact anytime I use any company’s product and try to export it from there and import it somewhere else it goes horribly wrong.

I don’t want my text documents in HTML.

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I don’t trust Proton. Avoid it at all costs, they’re expanding and want money. Your data is at risk!

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15 points

How is a company expected to operate without money?

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Genuinely. Proton expanding is a good thing in my eyes at least in this stage. They offer their services at a pretty hefty, but reasonable price compared to others, and don’t have a free offering for certain things they run. Their incentive to operate is continuing what they were built on and getting better.

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17 points

I feel so wise now for having landed as an user of both independently

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35 points

Proton’s alternative to Google Docs getting closer? 👀

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12 points

It will really hard or impossible to reach the level of development that ms and google have in their cloud collaborative products. They don’t have the resources like the mentioned two monsters.

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I don’t think that’s true at all.

I haven’t used only office but it looks pretty great.

Open source alternatives are always around, even if they’re a few steps behind corporate offerings.

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1 point

Sadly money marks so many things. But is a fact.

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20 points

A single coder made photopea which is near feature parity of photoshop. I think the Proton team can figure out a docs suite

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18 points

It may require intense passion and a manic episode to do something like that with one coder or a small team, which is hard to arrange bureaucratically.

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Rip. Time to delete all my standard notes.

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21 points

Seriously curious: why is that?

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6 points

I don’t trust Proton at all, and Obsidian is a nicer experience for this anyway. I had a ton of old notes, and now that a new owner is taking them all, it’s time for me to delete my account and move on.

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12 points

Can you articulate why you don’t trust Proton? From everything I know, they have a stellar reputation and have been around since 2013 with no end in sight.

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7 points

and now that a new owner is taking them all

But they’re E2E encrypted? I don’t understand the issue here.

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10 points

why? as a 5 years subscriber I am fine with that and they said they don’t want to mess with it and as long as Proton make it better. I am fine though.

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