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So, wait, Mocrosoft is finally giving us a way to fully-disable automatic Windows Updates?

/s

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That’s how I read it!

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Mocrosoft

Do you speak Russian? Cause the first part sounds like “wet” with o and the second as if related to sticking something somewhere.

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Or the more simple explanation: o is right next to i on most keyboards.

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I know, just had all those associations with мелкосовт и мокросовт .

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Full list from this comment on another thread: https://lemmy.ca/comment/8470544

ConisioAdmin.exe (Solidworks PDM)

EaseUS Disk Copy.exe (EaseUS Disk Copy Application)

ep_dwm.exe (ExplorerPatcher) Included since 22H2

iCloudServices.exe (iCloud files shared in Explorer via WhatsApp) from 23H2

RadeonSoftware.exe (AMD GPU perf settings) from23H2

StartAllBackCfg.exe (StartAllBack) Included since 22H2

Multi-mon + Copilot (Microsoft)

MergeSdb (Microsoft)

Intel IntcOED.sys (Intel)

Intel IntcAudioBus.sys (Intel) (%WinDir%\System32\drivers\IntcAudioBus.sys)

Realtek 8192su Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter (Realtek) (%WinDir%\System32\drivers\RTL8192su.sys)

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They won’t give you updates if you have radeon software or intel config tool?

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The article says it’s only a specific Win7 version of VLC that’s blocked, so maybe that’s the case with these also.

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Ok, so a newer version should be fine I guess. If that’s the case, the title should be: “If you’re still running these prehistoric software, Windows won’t be able to update“

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Or software made by Microsoft themselves!

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Will it stop asking me to upgrade every month if I have one of these installed? I might need to get one just for that.

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Hmm, interesting, do these all have explorer integrations? I know even a couple year’s old SolidWorks PDM does not work with Windows 11 because of the way it integrates with Windows explorer. a couple of the other apps there modify/integrate into explorer as well.

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Realtek 8192su Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter

Wow, how did they break that? Signing issue maybe?

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This stops Windows 11 from blocking the installation and lets you get the app back onto your PC. We’re not sure if Microsoft has fixed this trick, but it’s worth a shot if you want to keep using your favorite apps.

That’s mildly distopian.

This prevents your car from shutting itself off when trying visit certain areas on the map. We’re not sure if car manufacturers have fixed this trick, but it’s worth a shot if you want to keep going to your favorite places.

And only a little tiny bit adversarial.

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This is what ive been saying about windows vs Linux for years.

Linux isnt necessarily easy, but its collaborative and everybody’s on the same side.

Windows is PvP, and now I’m seeing fucking Hangul characters in chat, and I’m afraid. I don’t even use it anymore.

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Hangul characters in chat

You’re afraid of Korean speakers?

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In a cafe? No. In a video game lobby? I played way too much StarCraft.

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Wouldn’t it be nice if you could just keep using Windows 10 forever, and get security updates for free?

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7 was better lol

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For reference: Debian 6 which was the current release of Debian at the time Windows 10 was released hasn’t received official security patches 2016, CentOS 6.6 stopped receiving them 2022. Mac OS X Yosemite latest update was released 2017…

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Yeah and? Debian is free, you can just upgrade to the newer version without paying a thing.

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And upgrades tend to be pretty stable. You can still use whatever UX you were used to before, since packages tend to stick around quite a bit.

The issue with Win 11 is that it drastically changes hardware requirements and UX. That’s not an issue for Debian.

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It seems worthwhile to set realistic expectations.

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You can also upgrade from Windows 10 to 11 for free.

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Windows 10 was released on July 29, 2015, Debian 8 was released on 26 April 2015, 3 months earlier. And you are comparing it with Debian 6, released 4 years earlier? Debian 8 extended long term support reaches end-of-life 30 June 2025.

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You are right. I misinterpreted the information on wiki page. Debian 8’s free LTS tier ended 2020 and the Extended LTS continues until 2025. Extended support is a paid service though and costs a lot more than a single Windows license. Microsoft offers a similar (also paid) service.

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It’s comparing apples to oranges, that said, the current version of Debian is much closer to the UX of Debian 6 than windows 11 is to windows 10

If the point of windows is you’re paying for an operating system and should then have better support than a free alternative, they should be able to push security updates, especially if they’re already committed to ensuring old windows app can still run inside new windows

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Mac OS is Apple to oranges against windows when it comes to OS support?

Conveniently skipped that part and focused on Debian…

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They did provide security updates for several years longer than any competitor. Even (or especially depending on your point of view) for a company like Microsoft a user shouldn’t expect updates indefinitely at least not for the normal retail price.

And to be clear: I also don’t want to blame any of the named Linux distros. I recently migrated an old CentOS 6 server and it was about time. Sure there were still some security updates but several software components hadn’t received updates for years and there were a lot of workarounds necessary to keep the thing in a somewhat decent and modern state.

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windows 10 was meant to be the last version of windows, its a bit disingenuous to compare the two that way

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Ughh i hate reading this hoax. W10 was never the last version of windows. It’s a paraphrased report of one engineer at Microsoft that said that, but it was never in any official capacity confirmed

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the cool thing about debian though, you can just reinstall that shit. Or if you like flying close to the sun. Just change your apt sources. And hope nothing explodes.

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My vps was two Debian versions late and both upgrade went super smooth. Did it fromy damn phone even.

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Install Linux and be done with this nonsense

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