For reference for those using freedom units that’s roughly 60 mph in a 20 mph zone
Bonus. In eagle burger land that will either land you:
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$200 fine and 2 points on your license (varies on state)
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shot in the face (dwb and reaching for a
gunwallet) -
nothing (hello fellow patrolman, have a great day killing pet dogs)
Source: I’m a red-blooded freedom loving eagle burger citizen
While true, it’s always the insurance and fees that get you. This is why I don’t understand states that post their speeding fines: they’re low enough to not stop anyone, but also don’t give the true cost
Here in Massachusetts
Your first speeding ticket … lose your Excellent Driver Plus Discount and see your premiums rise and stay higher for six years!
Plus that kind of excessive speed will almost certainly also get you reckless driving
For surcharge purposes, reckless driving is treated the same as DUI [or a major at-fault accident]. This could result in a huge insurance premium increase.
Okay so i know you’re replying to the first point, and everything you’ve said is valid.
However, I mentioned the inherent racism and corruption that exists in US law enforcement in a very tongue-in-cheek way, and your reply of “while true” was just… oh man, yeah, chef’s kiss
But yes, it’s the collateral affects that really get you. Plus doing 60 in a school zone can absolutely get your ass handed to you in a very real and legally binding way lol
(For those in countries with functioning governments, in the US 30kph is usually reserved for school zones during restricted hours)
Plus doing 60 in a school zone can absolutely get your ass handed to you in a very real and legally binding way lol
Was in traffic court with a relative years back, and a woman was arguing that going 37Mph in a school zone when buses are unloading wasn’t an issue because she was A) on the other side of the road from the school, and B) paying close attention.
Because she contested it, and likely because of her poor defense, she got higher fines, court costs added, and IIRC, a penalty like safe driving school or suspension.
BTW, her being on the other side of the road was because she swerved into oncoming traffic to put her there. Great times hanging out in traffic court in big cities…
I was in traffic court in the 1990s and saw a guy get sent to jail for driving 75 miles per hour on a 25 miles per hour road.
This was in Virginia. The person refused a lawyer. He looked like he was maybe 22. The look of surprise on his face when he was led off to jail was priceless.
People regularly do that speed in my neighborhood that has a 25mph limit. The only time I see cops around is when they’re looking for the tweaker down the street so they can arrest him for whatever shit he stole this week, have him rat out other tweakers, and immediately release him to do the same thing again later.
In what state is 40MPH over not a minimum 4 point ticket? Even in incredibly lax Michigan, 10 over puts you at 2 points and 15+ is 4 points, and that’s only on limited access highways. It’s jurisdiction dependent, but you can usually add 2 points to each of those if it’s off the interstate. They’re also almost definitely going to hit you with a reckless driving charge, especially in a 25MPH zone.
Burgerland can be pretty lax when it comes to speeding and reckless driving, and you might be able to work the fine/points down to that with a good lawyer and having zero prior infractions, but acting like a $200 fine and 2 points for doing 60 in a 20 is normal is just a flat out falsehood.
TBH i was just making up numbers, it was more of a shitpost than anything. Yeah sixty in a twenty will get your more than a slap on the wrist for sure
Unless you’re a cop lol
Fair enough lol. It can be hard to tell sometimes given our laws, but also the amount of people who’ll make shit up/wildly exaggerate about the US and people believe it on here because US Bad™.
Sadly the cop thing is basically 100% true and usually only gets worse the smaller the town/jurisdiction.
A couple of years ago, the police here stopped a pickup truck driver going about 105MPH in a 55MPH zone, although people routinely drive 70. The driver just claimed that they weren’t used to the powerful engine, and the cops gave them a warning and sent them on their way.
(Wisconsin, for the record.)
In the eagle burger state of SheetzWawa you lose your license if you’re doing more than double the speed limit.
Only 2 years suspension is a slap on the wrist for what is essentially an attempt at stochastic murder. We need to stop treating driving licenses as a universal right and stop clearly unfit people from sitting behind the wheel.
If we stop treating driving as functionally a right we have to stop treating owning a car as functionally mandatory to having a job and being able to feed and house yourself.
What do you do in the US if you need a job but don’t have a license? You drive anyways and just deal with the risk. The problem is that people HAVE to drive so we can’t really in good faith take the ability to drive away from most people as most when pushed to their limit couldn’t stop driving if they wanted to.
i’m of the opinion that we should have a 2 strike system, first strike means you have to re-do your license from the ground up including any costs and undergo psychological evaluation to see if it’s safe to give you a second chance, and second strike means you simply do not get to drive again, tough shit.
A suspended license should however come with a free public transport ticket such that you can get around reasonably, add the cost needed to finance that to the price of getting a license in the first place if that’s what it takes.
Germany sometimes seems like the America of Europe.
As a finn that had to deal with a week long Erasmus university intense course with mostly german masters students… Yeah, americans of the Europe was the exact impression I got. Everyone else from all the other participant nationalities were respectful and professional, but the german students just couldnt.
Gods, I fucking hated to see the eyes of shame in the german professors faces watching their students go through their shenannigans and fits. My previous stereotype of germans as a nationality or as a culture being rational and collected died very quickly during that week.
Sorry for any germans reading this, but I consider you as the Americans of the EU after that experience.
There’s a reason i tend to dislike interacting with germans online. When they mainly speak english they’re usually fine but with german communities I haven’t had great experiences. I mostly just pretend to not be german.
We even have our own Texas (Bavaria), there must be a connection.
As an American reading this, I think this is hilarious to read. You wouldn’t call them “the Americans of Europe” if you saw American students in Europe.
I dunno. Germany seems to have a more American-like car culture than most of Europe, and they have an out of control banking system in the form of Deutsche Bank (Trump’s personal favorite). I’m looking at this from afar, but Germany seems to love repeating our mistakes.
In my experience (Dutchie living near the German border) the car culture of Germany isn’t that big; it is mostly the industry. Yes, there are many cars and a few more people driving in big BMW than the Dutch average, but there are quite a few people on bikes too. Also, transit in Germany is quite decent, despite the governments efforts; and, contrary to the Netherlands, it is affordable. Meanwhile the UK cancelled part of their HSR system and the prime minister claims it is a “country of motorists”.
Deutsche Bank I don’t know about, so you may still be right.
And not even enough. As a society we’re condoning too much when it’s about cars.
Going 100 in a 30 should be charged as “attempted massacre” if stopped. Because it’s not an “accident” anymore when you go that fast.
And driving that fast in a residential area without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, should be an aggravating circumstance and not the opposite.
I wonder what the finnish Mayday psychosis guy got for driving and crashing his Mercedes at like 180 km/h through a narrow and extremely busy street (30 or 40 km/h zone) got. He didn’t hurt anyone IIRC but he also could have killed like 20 people. I’ll edit this comment when find the video and the verdict.
edit1: the video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpNI2BQYrE&pp=ygUSdmFwcHUgbWVyc3Uga29sYXJp
edit2: ok he “only” drove at 100km/h and injured 2 people. He was accused of 11 cases of attempted manslaughter among other things. All charges dropped.
Apparently he had just proposed to his bride, she said yes, it was the happiest day of his life and he completely snapped. No drugs or alcohol involved.
Germany knows whats up.
Don’t like the loud kid next door? Run it over with your car. Your wife left you? Kill a bunch of pedestrians to blow off steam. You are below 18 years old and don’t have a car? Fuck off, your age is a YOU-problem.
After we build that one more lane we will be even greater than the USA.
