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Meanwhile in the usa… Our very own real estate fraudster with 91 felony charges is the pick of 50% of the country to be president.

That was bizarre to type. I can’t believe this is reality.

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You didn’t even mention the raping

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We’re taking about the rich, it’s implied

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Well its a special case because his victim wasn’t underage.

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Trump has more felony charges than Biden has years of age

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'Nam wins again.

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~50% of the voters*

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Or the fact the other real estate fraudsters who admitted dont convict Trump of the crime we are also doing!

I can’t say nothing will happen to them as I thought, nothing would happen to Trump and here we are.

I also have a biy more respect for giving someone enough rope to hang themselves. If Trump would of been stopped before his presidency, due to all of the reason any previous candidate would of been disqualified. We wouldn’t be here either.

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Or the fact the other real estate fraudsters who admitted dont convict Trump of the crime we are also doing!

I keep reading and rereading this “sentence” and I’ve come up empty. Can you clarify?

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Sure! In summary the political process would of discarded Trump as a candidate before reaching office. For reference there was a politician who dropped from running because he had a weirdish yell played across the air.

Then you have Trump in office, having never divested from his companies, from day one Trump was in violation of a crime. Now here is where the rope comes into play. Trump was playing the gambit of not bring charged while in office which allowed him to believe he could keep delaying the clock.

Now due to his corruption, he has taken down the GOP, that party is slowly imploding, judges, politicians he has exposed the entire grossness of the system.

So short rope, no insurrection maybe… Long rope and it leave a wider wake of destruction. RNC downfall, GOP splitting up…

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30% of eligible voters didn’t vote in 2020 which had the highest turnout since 1900.

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The 67-year-old chair of the real estate company Van Thinh Phat was formally charged with fraud amounting to $12.5 billion — nearly 3% of the country’s 2022 GDP.

Wow, when your fraud starts being measured in “percentage of GDP” you know you got too greedy.

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According to prosecutors, over a period of three years from February 2019, she ordered her driver to withdraw 108 trillion Vietnamese dong, more than $4bn (£2.3bn) in cash from the bank, and store it in her basement.

That much cash, even if all of it was in Vietnam’s largest denomination banknotes, would weigh two tonnes.

From a BBC article

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Dang, that’s a lotta dong.

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She likes dong even more than OPs mom

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Ha. Thoroughly nose exhaled. 10/10

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That’s what she said

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I think people like her deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison, but no crime, no matter how severe, deserves a death penalty.

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Nah, make the rich afraid again. We can talk red rose pacifism once the ultrawealthy are out of the picture.

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But when the death penalty is available, it’s not just the ultra wealthy who suffer. It’s far easier for the ultra wealthy to use their resources to frame someone they don’t like as a murderer or something and get that person executed. It’s even easier for the state to do that if they are corrupt enough. I’d much rather not give the state the right to sentence anyone to death at any point. Make these ultra rich criminals go to prison for the rest of their lives, make it unpardonable too.

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I’d much rather not give the state the right to sentence anyone to death at any point.

Not every country has a genocidal fascist regime as a government. Viet Nam is definitely not one of those.

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I think there are certainly crimes that deserve the death penalty (think CP type crimes). Just get those people out of society tbh, but this is just my opinion.

The only problem I have is with 100% certainly. You would have to be certain, or very very close to absolute certainty, that you have the right person who committed the crime.

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If the person goes to prison for the rest of their lives, it will keep society safe from them either way. The death penalty is not making society safer.

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It is a deterrent. For instance, we wouldn’t have insurrectionists working in the highest levels of government if we actually had effective laws and enforcement.

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People in maximum security prisons can, and do, escape. Sometimes the commit more violent crimes once they escape. A malicious governor can, in most states, pardon any person they want, and there’s no legal recourse. (In my state, the governor does not have the legal power to pardon a person until they’ve served at least 6 (?) years, and have been recommended by the parole board.)

On the other hand, people don’t get raised from the dead, no one gets resurrected, and there’s no reincarnation. Dead is dead, and is as safe to society as is possible.

The death penalty is certainly over-used, and applied in cases where it’s not likely necessary, but I absolutely, 100% believe that people like e.g., Gary Ridgeway should be executed as quickly as is possible.

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Certainty is a dangerous thing when people lie out of self interest or from coercion.

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I don’t believe these things happen because of great work or investigations, she must have stepped on someone else’s toes or something, that’s the only way influential people go down…

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There’s your answer:

Her actions “not only violate the property management rights of individuals and organizations but also push SCB (Saigon Joint Stock Commercial Bank) into a state of special control; eroding people’s trust in the leadership of the Party and State,”

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Is this stepping on someone’s toes? “If we don’t hold rich people accountable, people will think we don’t hold rich people accountable”.

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And this scream of, we’ll make a barbaric and extreme example out them for violating our god, money, and nobody will question our resolve and ability to catch the 99.99% of those who get away with it.

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When rich people get affected, people go down

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You must be from VN to know that thing. That’s for real though

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👈 SEE! THEY’LL KILL YOU!!

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