Discord👏Is👏Not👏A👏Replacement👏For👏 Websites
I often revere the people who can do smart shit.
I really shouldn’t. Using discord is dumb. Using discord for a switch emulator, while Nintendos lawyers are waking around with their cocks out is stupid.
I’ve said this recently, but intelligence is domain specific. People just being generally “smart” is not a thing people should really care about.
It’s not a matter of intelligence, these people just have different priorities.
If their priority is to make a nintendo emulator, they have to think about keeping their lines of communication secure against corporate legal threats, because those lines of communication are basically what software development is.
Have you considered that the person you consider smart is focusing all their brain power on their projects and they don’t have time to set up and maintain a website? That’s what discord is for, an easy, quick and dirty community aggregate
While there’s truth in your words, there are alternatives that require little effort. Even a IRC channel would have been better.
Discord is not only a terrible bad application, it’s the equivalent of writing posts on medium. If and when they decide to gatekeep your content, there’s nothing you can do.
Always easy to say this in hindsight.
IRC is considered unsafe too to a certain degree with pirating folks.
Also let me emphasize this: for every discord server shut down like this, there are 100+ servers with almost the same purpose that still exist and will continue to for at least the next 3y.
If you are doing development as a hobby, you just don’t have the time to use a different system, get used to that system, and then critically convince everyone else to go there too. Just look at Lemmy, I want it to be great as well but we have to accept that a few tiny steps more in the day to say usability of a system can be the difference between Twitter and Mastodon. And before ppl are saying “well Twitter was there longer”, sure but that doesn’t mean we cannot see the trend for growth that does or doesn’t exist.
The lack of intelligence is thinking you can build a grey zone project in discord. It’s like saying you want to build a house but don’t want to pour a foundation. Like, good for you, focus on windows and paint, but you’re not gonna get anywhere.
Easy quick and dirty are not acceptable when you are trying to build emulation software based on the products of a very litigious international corporation
That’s what discord is for, an easy, quick and dirty community aggregate
and thats also the reason why this project is now gone…
also you are pretty much “paying” with all you information and since they started heavily monetizing Discord you will pay even more as they soon will start to sell you conveniences or essential features. Also Tencent you know, which is pretty much like Nestlé, so it should be avoided.
I will say this, if you are a Lemmy user, sure probably.
But I did a simple websearch for “how to set up a freenode server.” The very first 3 things I saw (what fits on the screen) were a page full of syntax, a 13 minute YouTube video, and a page where the first thing that’s written is literally “Internet Relay Chat is a difficult thing to get used to, especially for people who were born into this world of full graphical interfaces and messaging web apps that handle user interaction seamlessly.”
For the average user, creating a channel does not “take seconds” if you need proof, discord. Its popular because it is so easy to use and the numbers back that up
I think you just need to know what you are getting into.
It’s a private company, it’s closed to sourced, they capture and monetise your data.
For people who value transparency and privacy, there are better options. This emulator project, should have known better than to use is.
aaalll of that being said, it’s very popular and if you are not concerned by any of the points raised in this who threads, it’s a good place to meet people to chat about Warcraft or whatever your thing is.
Just be aware that any thing your write, effectively belongs to them forever.
What I hate most about this is how they now moved to Rocket Chat.
Come on people. Use a forum. Get the message, finally. Do it!
I’m pretty sure most of people who mainly use discord as their main social apps probably never touched forum-based internet.
Hosting your own forum is also better as you (the owner of the site) can still retrieve the msgs as long as you still have the access to the host server (so you can back them up in case shutting down, then going to resurfacing later).
Not to mention using discord is already risking yourself because of their shitty policy.
What’s a safe way to host a site without anyone being able to track it to you?
I’ll explain it in layman’s terms…
- There is always a price (inconvenience) for secure-ness in online world.
- There’s 2 option to host a forum,
- You can use service like forum hoster or rent a VPS (so you can setup your own server although not self-hosting).
- Self-host yourself (this one a bit tricky if you aren’t prepared).
- Learn some good basic OpSec habit (eg. Never use same password, Never put your personal detail in your active directory especially on your site source document, use 2FA and so on).
- Learn to spot a phising or malicious link and never to randomly click random link in an email (in times when someone tried to social engineering you).
- Use reputable service provider if you are not going to self-host yourself.
- If you happen to self-host, make sure to check your open ports and secure them. Bots always probing any site in the world!
- For some reason if you’re going to run sketchy stuff, never use your real credential. This point may not apply on your region as it depends on your local law.
try !privacy@lemmy.ml as I’m not 100% on this stuff
but basically:
some third party hosts let you sign up anonymously with an anonymous email etc.
Only ever connect to the server host via VPN
Get a domain with anonymous WHOIS protection
Stick it all behind a reverse proxy
Technically Nintendo or whoever could demand your proxy/host to stop doing business with your account, but they won’t have enough personal info to go beyond that and you can just rehost it under new info.
I make lots of use of discord. That does not mean I prefer it to forum style for communication - discord just suits well for one-off joke-y talk
Maybe in my message seems to focus solely on discord for putting the blame… The problem nowadays is that mostly these “devs” share/upload/host their releases in Discord which means you do use Discord’s CDN to host their files. Another common complaint of these practices is that you need to join their server in order to just download relevant files which makes it infuriating if you stumbles across these practices often. For example I joined 8 different discord servers just to download a software/binary/release, why can’t just put the release on something like Mediafire, Google Drive, Megaupload or perhaps sourceforge.
I do understand Discord is communication platform but most of time some people are too lazy to manage stuff so what happen is that everything is hosted in single place as such Discord.
And it’s a million times better for people trying to troubleshoot.
1 forum post can solve many problems, rather than having to have each person ask in a support chat that’s not searchable.
Technically Discord is trying to solve this with their threads feature, but I’ve found either the server owners don’t force it or the users don’t use it. Either way, it sucks.
It’s so goddamn easy to set up a basic forum site for a few bucks a month, and it’s not like there aren’t hundreds of options for file sharing as well.
The Xbox and PSP modding forums were where I used to hang out before Reddit, a well-designed and run forum is so much better than trying to basically make a website out of a chat room.
They need to be using an encrypted platform hosted in a country out of reach of Nintendo
Still not the point of a live-chat application. The use case is not the same as a forum. You want an archive where everything is well-organized and most questions have already been answered. Discord and other live chat services are more like live tech support, to fill the gap between the raw technical documentation found in GitHub, and the just getting started guide or FAQ, which are usually lightweight enough that they could be posted anywhere. Discord doesn’t exist to be an archive that holds all the knowledge, discord exists so that when you open an app, you can go in, ask a couple questions, and hopefully someone will get to you in a couple minutes, at most, rather than in a couple days.
I hope Nintendo is able to make emulation illegal once and for all and end all this. People really shouldn’t be allowed to run whatever software they want, they should only be allowed to run Microsoft Windows and the fun games they include on the bonus disc
Man fuck Nintendo at this point. WE ARE ALLOWED TO EMULATE, GET FUCKED
I dead ass downloaded and set up yuza the second I heard it was shutting down
I’ll reinforce my comment from months ago: I have the latest version of Yuzu, the keys, the firmware, the Linux and Windows versions, and links to ROM sites, and I’ll distribute them forever to whoever asks in my DMs. I packaged them in a simple .zip with easy to follow instructions.
That said, why simply not use Ryujinx? Even on the Steam Deck performance is very good nowadays. Super Mario Wonder plays at 60 FPS on the Deck (though you need to enable a very simple mod that disables some weird function the game runs, otherwise it drops to 30 FPS all the time). In fact, for AMD GPUs, you’re doing yourself a huge favor by going Ryujinx over Yuzu and derivatives.
Ryujinx is solid, accurate and well known, it’s a trusted emulator. The Yuzu forks are unknown, managed by non experienced people (one was quite literally created by a teenager with zero coding knowledge) and extremely ephemeral.
Ryujinx runs very poorly on older cpus like ryzen 3200G, I played ToTK fine on Yuzu, but on ryujinx the game becomes a slideshow, I also can’t get 60fps on Princess Peach with it.
Hey, Kadu! It’s so good to see you again! I have been using the yuzu zip you sent me, and have been playing the hell out of some of my games. I just wanted to say thank you so freaking much, from the bottom of my heart! 🙏
Ryujinx is for perfect emulation, as in it aims to completely replicate how the Nintendo Switch works. While Yuzu is an emulator that aims for better performance than the Switch while playing Switch games.
You correct in the statement Ryujinx aims for accuracy and does not implement certain performance workarounds Yuzu did. However, your comment is exaggerated. Even Ryujinx isn’t a cycle accurate emulator, nowhere close.
