4, 5, and 6 are definitely better in a different way that resonates with younger kids and certainly George Lucas is prone to making weird decisions and writing bad dialogue. The actors though were the right people in the right place. The movies succeeded almost in spite of Lucas. However, what I’ve been struck by, now as a father, is less the sci-fi-fantasy, and more the sort of coming of age and father-son dynamic that is a bit more universal, that’s the core story.
Luke grows up on a backwater world, never knowing his father. He dreams of going to the academy to get the hell out of there. Then one day someone tells him his father was a knight and an ace fighter pilot to boot, the guy was a fucking legend. Luke builds up this impossible image of his father who was struck down by the evilest guy in the world, this total shitbag that works for the government. All the love he would’ve had for his Dad, he pours into hating Vader, he’s taken everything he ever loved away. Then, when Luke finally has a chance to confront him face-to-face, he discovers Vader was his Dad all along. It knocks the wind out of him, and suddenly he has to come to terms with that Dad on a pillar he’s idolized his whole life with that detestable boot licker he’s grown to hate.
“I am your father,” is the pinnacle of the OT, it’s where everything was leading to, that discovery. It’s that mixture of love & hate, how do choose to deal with that as a person? Luke chose love, and I think that’s an inspiring thing. The sci-fi-fantasy thing is just sort of there for the kids, but it’s not the crux of the story.
You need to go more unpopular. Most SW is only really good when you’re 8.
An edit for the aggrieved: If actual creative people are in control instead of GL or idiot corpos, SW can make for decent space opera. Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars will be good no matter how old I am lucky enough to get, as will some of the EU books that were de-canonized by Disney.
I totally agree!
But with I-III and VII-IX, there’s a common consensus that they weren’t exactly great.
The only exception to the rule is Rogue One. Generally speaking: Star Wars without Skywalkers is better.
I wholeheartedly disagree, but only because 4,5 and 6 are the only truly good ones, with good acting, great effects, and a fantastic story. The prequel trilogy were just bad cgi that looked passable at the time, and 7, 8 and 9 are movies trying to copy and paste what was good about the originals with a bit of moder comedy thrown in (“do you talk first or do i talk first?” 🤮). Rogue one is immensely overrated, namely because the story is only ok, and the Vader voice has a random aftican accent put on by JEJ, and that ruins all the rest for me. Except the hallway scene. That scene is so out of canon it makes me sick. The speed with which Vader moves goes against everything shown prior. He’s supposed to be a bruiser type, not a rogue.
When people are young they are not brainwashed yet and can see the world for what it is, when they grow up they get brainwashed and stressed to stupidity. Unless you provide a valid comparison to claim original star wars movies are bad i’m going to assume you are one of these people that burned out every inch of their brain
De gustibus nil disputandum, old chap. The fresh eyes of the young have their merits, but we’re at our best when we’re a little critical, don’t you find?
De gustibus nil disputandum
Send hollywood your cv with a video of your acting, when they tell you it’s too bad reply with de gustibus nil disputandum
I just watched 4 and 5 with my gf who hasn’t seen them all the way through. I’m 35 and I still think they’re great. I gotta say I really hate the shitty CGI that Lucas added in the late 90’s. We’re watching them on Disney+ and I’m thinking about trying to torrent the original non-“remastered” versions before we get to 6. The CGI singing alien in Jabba’s palace is the worst part of any Star Wars movie ever made imo.
Seem like you were smarter when you were 8
They’re good films IMO. More coherent plot than the sequels.
But everyone who hated on Jarjar conveniently forgot about Threepio and Ewoks.
No, I didn’t conveniently forget about anything. Jarjar is a racist characiture, c3p0 and the ewoks are not. Funny how you “conveniently forgot” about that.
He is also 10x more annoying than a robot that has more personality than him and a bunch of teddy bears that have zero intelligible lines. It’s actually impressive how fucking bad of a character he is.
Fuck yes - c3po was way more cringe!
George Lucas is shit for throwing in stupid drivel to keep kiddies happy (much like the guy that produces LOTR and the hobbit)
I wasn’t a big fan of The Hobbit films (big money grab), but The Hobbit was literally a children’s book for Tolkien’s kids. That being said, I can’t say there was anything added “for the kiddies”. In terms of the LOTR films, I’m not sure what was there to appease kids that could be compared to anything Star Wars ever did. They weren’t a perfect adaptation of the books, but those movies still hold up and I wouldn’t let my young kids watch if.
