I was thinking that maybe such idea could be applied on a Linux phone that could run all your banking apps without Waydroid’s “you-must-be-a-hacker” issues, literally by having a half-asleep Android running on another chip, which you can wake up whenever to do your “non-hacker” things, while at the same time you can run the rest of your system (calls, messaging, calculator, calendar, browser…) on your lightweight, private and personalized Linux mobile OS.
I think I would pay big bucks for something like this, and it could serve as a transition device for ditching Android in the future when Tux finally governs over the world.
What do you guys think?
That already exists with waydroid. It’s what people use on the Librem 5 and PinePhone to run linux apps. It would save much more battery if it were at OS level, but I assume that would be akin to merging Android and mobile linux distros and a lot more work.
Why do you have the impression that waydroid has a “you must be a hacker” issue?
Does waydroid support safetynet? That seems to be what op is talking about
Safetynet worked at some point, but it’s proprietary tech that changes on a whim. Any other emulator or container will probably run into the same problem. Starting an entire new emulator with the purpose of circumventing safetynet or other proprietary attestation is an effort that could’ve gone into making it work on waydroid instead.
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If I am not mistaken, not all apps run on Waydroid, specially banking stuff will freak out because they have systems to know that you are running on true, verified hardware or not.
I’m afraid banking apps cannot be solved. They already require you to install sketchy system mods if you have just rooted your genuine phone with the original OS
I mean, with this dualOS device it would be solved… And recognition of Linux mobile would increase, hopefully making banking apps look for other systems of “verification”.
…not all apps run on Waydroid…
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Waydroid#ARM_Apps_Incompatible
https://docs.waydro.id/faq/community-projects-we-like
@onlinepersona did you change your license? List time I saw, it was CC by SA or something
Text links to the same license. Just using a different text to make it a little bit clearer what it’s for. (Still raises many questions)
Alternative utopia: do online banking in a desktop web browser while seated comfortably at home, rather than on a street corner in the sun squinting at a tiny screen.
Some banking services do only work through the app, believe it or not, as it is “the trusted device”.
I agree, but if you’re like me, situations arise where I’m not at home, and unexpectedly spending money. Being able to look at my bank on my phone in the moment helps me judge if what I’m about to do is worth it.
You can use a mobile device for this.
I use Bitwarden, so I just have a shortcut in my launcher to my bank’s web browser page, Bitwarden autofills, and I’m in my account in a few seconds. Honestly, it might just be my bank that’s the issue, but their old mobile app took longer to load than it takes me to log into their webpage anyway (and it would log me out half the time). Years ago I thought this would be an issue for me when I planned to de-google, but it turns out it’s a complete non-issue (for me) and in fact I actually like the web page better. I’m able to do a lot of things in the browser that the app didn’t have the ability to access (at least at the time; it’s likely been updated).
Just throwing it out there that it’s not necessarily an issue, and often the difference between the app and the webpage is blown out of proportion.
I thought the whole point of android is to be open source. We shouldn’t let Google own it
I hope your big bucks are big millions
Anyway, full and very easy android app support would be enough. Imaging installing an android apk app via your fdroid software store without thinking about it. Just like a flatpak. That’s the future I want to live in.
Yes but the problem is that currently banking apps and possibly other “legally important” apps will freak out running under Waydroid.
BlackBerry was managed to run Android next to QNX somehow (BB OS10)
Pretty sure it just had an emulation layer for Android. I had a Passport when it was new, and I remember the phone was emulating a version of Android a few years old, so a few apps didn’t work properly
Yeah, it was already on old enough version when it was a thing.
But to my understanding, it wasn’t emulation, rather having a compatibility layer between QNX and Android.
so AFAIK, it was rather like Proton on Linux? but maybe I’m totally wrong here, haha.
I worked at BlackBerry (many years later) and this was my understanding. They were brutally reimpmementing all the Android APIs
