I would laugh if this wasn’t beyond grim. Grinding young and old so US companies can extract profit from an entire continent.

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When talking about this with my lib friends, I suggested that maybe if Ukrainans went back in time to 2022, they might have decided that suing for peace in exchange for land would have been a better outcome than all the death and destruction that was about to come. He immediately retorted that, if we went back in time, that we should have spent a trillion dollars on weapons and marched on Moscow. I expected strong pushback during that conversation but I honestly didn’t expect “we should have had an even more horrific war and given even more money to the military industrial complex”

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Classic lib, thinking that if they spend more money on weapons, more weapons will just magically appear.

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Spending any amount of money won’t do them any good unless they’ve figured out a way to convert capital into brand new, full grown adult males to wield these weapons.

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I think we must laugh, what else is there to do for them now? Apart from explaining this was mostly people who didn’t want to fight who fought, pressed into it by neonazis and NATO mercenaries, and all the war’s supporters have been hiding out in the West plugging their ears. Once everyone understands the premises, I think we can laugh.

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The only decision for these guys is to march on Kyiv or surrender to the Russians. If they don’t, that’s their choice to sit and die while some Ahkmat soldier screams for gods blessing while their trench gets assaulted.

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lose with American help

lose without it

Z needs more coke money so he needs more men for the meat grinder. Such a good and obedient vassal state, dying instead of surrendering. If only Z had read a fuckin book about American foreign policy the past 60 years(use and abuse less powerful countries)

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41 points

Yes this whole thing gives me strong South Vietnam vibes

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Thinkin bout the quote from that ARVN commander about how they were gonna show those commie bastards the superiority of the south.

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Lmao libs still coping thinking that more weapons or a special shipment of wunderwaffe will fix the war this time, trust me!

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Liberals are dreamers who believe in the power of positive thinking. They live in a fantasy land where they can wish for things to happen without any regard for practicality or reality. Their idealist views lead them to ignore pesky details such as production capabilities and supply chains, leaving them with fanciful expectations that never come to fruition.

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It also keeps them from moving past “Russia bad” and asking why exactly is this conflict happening.

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21 points

exactly

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33 points

Semi-random highlight from lemmy.ml today:

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33 points

Basically what happens when you’ve been told that you’re a gifted child all your life.

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And then China will produce another order of magnitude more than that, I mean they already have 232x the shipbuilding capacity of the US

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18 points

just adorable.

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26 points

Honestly that might be it. That’s also why they get so angry when they encounter a leftist/socialist online who says “I won’t vote for Biden”, and why they more or less randomly decided that speaking Trumps name was verboten.

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Ukraine showed that NATO ground weapons are nothing special. Iran’s strike showed that all of the West’s best air defense can be neutralized reliably. Bad day for NATO stans.

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Who will win? One large international military empire of modern nations or one smol sanctioned pirate band?

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nazis putting all their hopes in wunderwaffe? huh. that’s new.

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16 points

We just need to fit the ghost of Kyiv with British lasers….

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It seems like Ukraine needs to pitch a subscription model…

For a small price of $50 billion a month you can help us send just enough young men into the meat grinder that we maintain a stalemate with evil Putin.

If you are late for payment we will send our president to give you a 7 days notice that Putin will takeover/destroy everything here if you fail to pay. Interest is added if late due to men finding clubbing more interesting that dying when we don’t have artillery shells

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The horrifying part is that they are already doing that. They didn’t just adopt their draconian mobilization law for no reason.

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Western weapons failed utterly during the Zapo Offensive, so back when they were sending weapons Ukraine was still losing.

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That’s sort of the elephant in the room, the west was in the best position they were ever going to be in last summer. The balance of power shifted significantly in Russia’s favor since then as even western media openly admits now. If Ukraine couldn’t make any progress back then it’s obvious that there’s no path to victory now.

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