16 points

To be fair, getting an impartial jury in this case is a lot harder than it would be normally.

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No idea why you got downvoted. Nearly everyone will know who he is, since he was the damn President of the country. Nearly everyone will know a lot of stuff about him, since he never fucking shuts up on social media. He has a large percentage of the country who loves him and a larger percentage of people who absolutely hate him. Finally, the case and jury selection is in New York, where he has been in the news for 40 years.

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That’s what happens when the defendant is a polarizing fascist asshole.

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Maybe, but that’s not a crime and he shouldn’t be punished for it.

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He chose to have a jury trial. Juries are inherently biased. It’s impossible for anyone to have missed the past 8 years of almost daily coverage of the dumb things he says and does.

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I agree. Trump has done everything possible to spread his propaganda and poison the jury pool.

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That’s why they’re not allowed to ask nix people for being biased.

Everyone already has their opinions. The best they can do is look for people that aren’t dogmatic.

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People seem to think that a prior opinion about the dependent automatically means that a potential juror cannot be impartial. All that is required is that the juror can render a verdict based solely on the evidence presented at trial. Plenty of people with strong opinions about Trump himself can still be impartial jurors.

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I’m not sure that’s true. Even a person with a great deal of integrity and respect for the law is going to be biased subconsciously to some extent by the knowledge that this case may change the outcome of a particularly important presidential election. A person whose respect for the law is less than absolute may even consider affecting the outcome of the election to be a moral obligation.

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More autistic people should be jurors. It would be the perfect job for certain autistic people who are very rules based.

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Hi government please choose me as juror I definitely will not intentionally give him the maximum sentence

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Yup. And those 10 strikes are for exactly that. If you can’t prove a juror will be biased but suspect they will be, then you can use one of your 10 strikes to exclude them. But you have an unlimited amount of “for cause” strikes, where the juror has admitted that they wouldn’t be able to stay impartial.

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You couldn’t pay me enough to be a juror for that trial. Sure, just paint a target on my back for this cult leader who’s backed by half the government!

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I’d happily do it. I’m not a us citizen, though.

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And I’m grateful for the people who are willing to do such a thankless task!

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They pay $15 a day where I live. I expect they will get similar lol

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Mine pays $4 for the first day, and $12 per subsequent day if the trial lasts longer than one day. Parking in the attached garage is $15 per day.

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Lol they give you the money then take it right back. You would think the justice system would be more fair than that

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Trump mostly caused those issues though. He talks about these things constantly. Then argues the trial cannot start because there’s too much attention.

Further, there is a pre selection. The judge rejected loads of people beforehand.

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Trump mostly caused those issues though. He talks about these things constantly. Then argues the trial cannot start because there’s too much attention.

Hmm. That might actually be a valid legal strategy. I’m not sure that the fact that the defendant caused the problem actually takes away their protections.

Honestly, Trump is so globally visible that I don’t know how you’d remedy that, though. A change of venue isn’t going to change anything.

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8 points

“No one can judge me!” - Donald Trump literally

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Is it reasonable to think that if his lawyers get even one maga nut on the jury, they’d have to re-try the case?

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I am pretty certain jury verdicts have to be unanimous or it’s a mistrial, so, yeah, that’s a reasonable thing to think

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The fact that they are going through social media history makes this significantly less of a risk, but it’s still a risk.

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There are plenty of stupid people who are not active on social media.

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On the plus side this is New York, the city that knows him best. And they fucking hate him.

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Florida can keep him

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The parts of my family that are Trump supporters are all from NYC. I imagine they never have actually met Trump though. I imagine actually meeting him would cure them.

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It’s up to the government to decide whether or not they re-try a case if there is a hung jury. It’s my understanding that most of the time, they do not re-try the case because of the time and effort involved with no guarantee that the outcome would be any different. So usually a hung jury is a victory for the defense.

I’m not a lawyer, that’s just my layman’s understanding from the legal stuff I’ve seen and read.

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I expect in this case the prosecution would consider it worth the time and expense, but

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