The World Health Organization has raised concerns about the spread of H5N1 bird flu, which has an “extraordinarily high” mortality rate in humans.

An outbreak that began in 2020 has led to the deaths or killing of tens of millions of poultry. Most recently, the spread of the virus within several mammal species, including in domestic cattle in the US, has increased the risk of spillover to humans, the WHO said.

“This remains I think an enormous concern,” the UN health agency’s chief scientist, Jeremy Farrar, told reporters in Geneva.

Cows and goats joined the list of species affected last month – a surprising development for experts because they were not thought susceptible to this type of influenza. US authorities reported this month that a person in Texas was recovering from bird flu after being exposed to dairy cattle, with 16 herds across six states infected apparently after exposure to wild birds.

The A(H5N1) variant has become “a global zoonotic animal pandemic”, Farrar said.

“The great concern of course is that in … infecting ducks and chickens and then increasingly mammals, that virus now evolves and develops the ability to infect humans and then critically the ability to go from human to human,” he added.

So far, there is no evidence that H5N1 is spreading between humans. But in the hundreds of cases where humans have been infected through contact with animals over the past 20 years, “the mortality rate is extraordinarily high”, Farrar said, because humans have no natural immunity to the virus.

From 2003 to 2024, 889 cases and 463 deaths caused by H5N1 have been reported worldwide from 23 countries, according to the WHO, putting the case fatality rate at 52%.

The recent US case of human infection after contact with an infected mammal highlights the increased risk. When “you come into the mammalian population, then you’re getting closer to humans”, Farrar said, warning that “this virus is just looking for new, novel hosts”.

Farrar called for increased monitoring, saying it was “very important understanding how many human infections are happening … because that’s where adaptation [of the virus] will happen”.

“It’s a tragic thing to say, but if I get infected with H5N1 and I die, that’s the end of it,” he said. “If I go around the community and I spread it to somebody else then you start the cycle.”

He said efforts were under way towards the development of vaccines and therapeutics for H5N1, and stressed the need to ensure that regional and national health authorities around the world had the capacity to diagnose the virus.

This was being done so that “if H5N1 did come across to humans, with human-to-human transmission”, the world would be “in a position to immediately respond”, Farrar said, calling for equitable access to vaccines, therapeutics and diagnostics.

61 points

If this shit goes down again, I’m locking the fuck away and fuck the anti-vaxers.

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Shit is worrying. I’m extremely ignorant to the science of infectious diseases, but at least from my layman’s point of view, it is extremely concerning how this virus went from exploding across the entire globe in wild animal populations, to now infecting cattle, to then infecting goats in such a short time span… It seems like it is progressively getting worse, and any one of these millions of new infections per day could be the one that mutates just right to be able to hop between humans.

I’m dubious of all the articles stressing the “risk is extremely low, so stay calm” sentiment. That sentiment seems less about giving good advice to make people feel comfortable, and more like a means to minimize panic - which there surely will be if this bug starts hopping between people, and that 50% lethality rate holds steady.

A bird flu pandemic would be less about social distancing, and more about huddling with a shotgun in your basement.

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It would be a catastrophe for sure, but there are some reasons to be hopeful:

Researchers have been studying this bug for awhile and human vaccines could be ramped up more quickly than with COVID.

Further, there are specific mutations that would be key for rapid human-human spread and the variant infecting these cattle don’t have those mutations (yet).

Cattle are not as good a transition species to humans as, for example, pigs. So while we should be watching this, it’s not quite as alarming as it could be.

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Researchers have been studying this bug for awhile and human vaccines could be ramped up more quickly than with COVID.

There has also been a lot more research and successful production of influenza related vaccines, and over a much longer period of time. I would think there could be the potential to create H5N1 vaccines prophylactically in the future as the technology continues to improve.

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So, I’m also a layman. I have been following bird flu news articles since the massive wild bird deaths started.

For what it’s worth, it didn’t just start jumping to mammals recently. It’s been infecting aquatic mammals for a while. I believe European minks and goats were infected even before that. Luckily, the virus doesn’t currently seem to be infecting the lungs of cattle. Similarly, the one human who contracted it recently had no respiratory symptoms. It seems he touched a cow and then touched his eye, causing the spread.

Based on articles I’ve read, it won’t be a problem for humans until the virus infects the upper respiratory tracts of humans easily.

However, with cattle farmers seemingly taking no precautions other than not milking sick cows (and I’m not even sure I believe that, honestly), it may just be a matter of time before that happens. Every infected cow is a place for the virus to spread and mutate.

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Milk from infected cows will be safe once pasteurized. Unfortunately, there appears to be pretty substantial overlap with “raw milk” drinkers, yoga moms, and anti-vaxxers.

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Don’t forget, the process of touching the cows to hook them up to the machines is a disease vector. And they seem to be taking no precautions for that.

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While it is worrying, we already have flu vaccines and the infrastructure to manufacture them at scale. A reformulation will be much, much simpler than creating the COVID mRNA vaccine

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A reformulation will be much, much simpler

Didn’t they say the same thing about the covid vaccines?

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4 points

No? Not that I’ve heard

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The thing that that probably makes it a little less concerning is the “50% lethality”. I doubt you can compare wildlife to humans that have things like medicine and hospitals.

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The 50% lethality rate was among the humans who have caught it from an animal. That said, most of those were in developing nations with poor access to medical treatment

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Oh so there is already [Animal > Human] but not [Human > Human] it is more concerning than i thought then.

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50% lethality in humans, not wildlife

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the world would be “in a position to immediately respond”

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The conspiracy world is ready to respond.

If we’re going to go through this bullshit again the “birds aren’t real” folks better come out in force. If millions are going to die again I at least want to be able to laugh at some asshats trying to argue that it’s fake because birds are just government surveillance drones lol

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Oh good, more opportunities for my anti-vax brother to put his children’s lives in danger. Just what we need

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With a 52% percent mortality rate, this might well be the last such opportunity. One way or another. 😬

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9 points

That’s exactly right - this might be what ‘our generations’ need to re-learn that vaccines are a good thing

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Get your supplies now, stock up on those beans brethren.

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fatality rate at 52%.

The sequel is always harder

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And helpfully, the social fabric is so strained at the moment with anti-vax nonsense that even the most basic advice like “stay home if you’re sick” or “try not to cough directly onto the face of anyone” would be meet with insane opposition.

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