86 points

Their hardware is also garbage. My MX Anywhere 3 lasted only two years. I had no brand Chinese mice that lasted longer.

permalink
report
reply
37 points

sweats in 1 yr 10 mos of ownership What happened to it?

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points
*

Capitalism happened. Designed to fail.

EVGA hardware sucks balls

Corsair hardware sucks balls

Razor hardware sucks balls

Logitech hardware sucks balls

Oddly enough, the only mouse that I’ve NEVER had issues with is a 5$ chinese MMO mouse with zero software or ‘fancy crap’ embedded. It just works. That mouse is now $50 for some reason.

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

Have to disagree on EVGA. I’ve purchased a lot of their hardware and any time I had an issue their support and RMAs were great. I’m really sad they got out of the video card business.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

I have to say i own a decent amount of Corsair hardware (kb+m, RAM, SSD and PSU), and none has ever given me an issue. Most of it I got a few years back so maybe that was before they declined?

Compared to Razer, where I’ve owned 3 mice and all of them failed one way or another. Decent keyboards though.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Definitely capitalism. These companies are under constant pressure from shareholders to increase profits year over year.

Once they can’t increase profits by growing the market share anymore, they increase it by making their products shittier.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Yes, some mid-low random mice can run for 10+ years, I had a couple. But on average they break much more frequently, and you have no guarantee to repair\replace them given by a producer\shop, that I also used when bought branded devices and was pretty happy with them returning money or giving me another one without much delays. You can afford up to 10 $5 mice before you get to the real treasure without stepping over a $50 mark, right, and it may become a frugal hobby, sometimes becoming into a hardware reselling game. But the gambling aspect, risky uncertainty is not for everyone, especially if we are talking something expensive like v-cards - in modern times, with integrated gfx having no problem supporting popular MMOs, those who still buy them really need them for some reason and getting them melt on the go is either a deep frustration or troubles at work, with hobbies. I, for once, can’t afford to replace mine with prices still going crazy, even if it’s 2-3 times cheaper than the pricey one, and still don’t find a reason even though it’s not as shiny as it was years ago. Comfort is a product too, and sometimes it’s not just a facade.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Catastrophe

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

The left button trigger broke. I couldn’t drag and click anymore.

Same thing happened with my MX Anywhere 2, but at least that one lasted four years.

Logitech is getting shittier…

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I’m only a few months in 😬

permalink
report
parent
reply
29 points

On the other hand, I have Logitech keyboards and mice that I bought more than a decade ago still going strong

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I’m extremely satisfied with my logitech mx master 3, the magnetic wheel is fucking amazing, but this is just my personal opinion, I haven’t exhaustively tested many other logitech devices

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

In general their mice are weirdly perverse in the way they fail. I’ve never seen one fail in any way besides the buttons, usually failing into double-clicking. Like it feels like they would last super-long if they just used better components for the buttons. The mousewheel has never failed on me, the radio has never failed on me, the main sensor has never failed on me, nor the laser… just the clicky buttons.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Really? I still use one from 2014

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Products 10 years ago were better made in general

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Am on my second 502, the first one lasted until this year, from the release year. Phenomenal hardware. The only dud by them I had in the past 25 years were my current keyboard, the G512, that developed near-instant chatter.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I’m on my second one of their trackball mice in 8 years, and the first one only failed because I hit it too hard getting frustrated at a videogame. My G915 mechanical keyboard is going strong at 3 years old now, and my brother even left it upside down in a puddle once. I really don’t get all these accessories of failing Logitech hardware.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

If you really like rollerball mice and have the money, the ones I recommend are either the ELECOM Huge Trackball Mouse or the Gameball. The Elecom starts around $100 and the Gameball is around $300 depending where you live.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

i wish there was an enthusiast custom mouse segment of the market like there is for mechKBs.
then we could simply build our own.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
*

As a ounterpoint, I got a Logitech g700 a bajillion years ago that lasted thru my wow years iirc 2010-2018 and after that, it had a button problem where the left mouse button kept double clicking on its own, i sent a letter asking logitech how i could fix it and they sent me a g700s (the newer version) for free, that i am using right this second.

The scroll wheel button is a little loose but otherwise it’s solid as hell.

But the software is actual bullshit that is not that intuitive and stops working randomly.

I forgive them. I dunno if they’ve fallen in quality since then however, which would really be a fucking shame cuz with my experience id recommend their hardware over many others.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

The buttons on the G700s will also pop eventually. I recommend you learn how to take it apart and replace the switches before they go bad.

The G700s is kind of a pain to disassemble (and there’s a mod to make it easier to assemble and disassemble for the future).

The only thing close to a successor to that mouse is a G604, and not only did it get discontinued in a very short time frame, but it also has cheap switches. My G700s started double clicking after several years of use (I’d like to say 5?) but my G604 started double clicking after like two years. And let me tell you, yes you don’t need to mod it to make the insides more accessible, but the inside is much more annoying to navigate. Several different screw lengths and sizes, a lot of unintuitive plastic interlocking parts, as opposed to two stacked PCBs in the G700/G700s.

I’ve swapped the switches on both with switches made by Kailh that are supposedly much longer lasting. The G604 is basically perfect from a layout perspective (the rubber wears out much faster than the hard textured shell of a G700/G700s though, which I don’t like. I’ve superglued it back into place where it peeled, but really, it’s a shame how even Logitech makes things this low quality now. It’s both good and disappointing that the fixes are very easy, because yes you can fix them, but why the hell is that a point of failure in the first place?

The software was shit and it only got worse. So, you know. No notes there. Praying on my hands and knees for something like QMK to pop up that we can flash all our mice with once and for all.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

My G700 just started having double click issues recently, after almost 12 years of heavy use. Debated disassembling it and replacing the switch, but it’s so worn out, especially the scroll wheel, that I decided to search for a replacement mouse instead, as I couldn’t find any new G700 or G700S in stores any more.

I really wanted a mouse with plenty of side buttons, so I replaced it with a Razer Naga V2 Pro with the 6-button side panel, which I really like so far (I was skeptical at first). Only thing I really miss is the Logitech “Infinite Scroll” zero friction scrolling.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I get the feeling their hardware quality is dropping fast. The old stuff was great.

My old MX Anywhere 2 survived four years of abuse before getting the double click issue, I’ve been using my G533 headset almost every day for five years now and it’s still going strong, but the “top of the line” mouse I bought two years ago is already dead.

permalink
report
parent
reply
66 points

Even their hardware is suffering.

I moved to a knockoff trackball (Nulea) that’s considerably better so far, simply because I went through two trackballs in three years.

permalink
report
reply
15 points

Yeah, I used to have a pair of logitech G35 headphones and they were the best headphones I’ve ever had. When they eventually broke I replaced them with the newer G635 and they’re so much worse. I can’t even use the buttons on them because they don’t send any keycode at all before being initialized by the software which is windows only

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Was it the switches on the right/left mouse button? That’s usually my failure point.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Mouse wheel on one, power failure on the other. The second one my cats kept knocking to the floor so I can’t really blame Logitech on that one but with the Nulea one it really hit home that Logitech doesn’t refine their designs any longer.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

With my G604, the rubber sheet on top of the mouse comes loose after 2 years or so. Started again yesterday. Once it starts to disintegrate, I’ll just leave Logitech behind for good.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I have been using the MX Ergo trackball for years and it is very reliable.

permalink
report
parent
reply
33 points

I have personally RMAed 3 mouses for double click issues and replaced the switches in my current mouse. Hardware is bad.

permalink
report
reply
2 points
*

Yep, they have a problem with the micro-switches. I’ve RMAed 2 of them for the same reason. I replaced a 3rd with some no-name Chinese mouse before it could fail on me.

permalink
report
parent
reply
32 points

Jumping on the Logitech hardware trashing. Bought two G613 keyboards in the past couple years. Each one failed shortly after the 1 year warranty period. Both had the same double pressing chatter issue. I’ve been avoiding their mice for a while due to double clicking problems.

permalink
report
reply
7 points

Headphones are absolute trash and die constantly. But their MX Master series? I couldn’t be happier if I tried. Absolute top of the line. Gaming keyboards look the same cheap trash as others, so I wouldn’t wanna try em anyway.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I wouldn’t game fast game with the MX Master, but for productivity work, this is one of the best mouse i’ve used. My hand never gets tired.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Oh yeah, they are heavy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Ah I’m facing the double-typing on mine now as well. Though I’ve convinced myself to turn it into a personal project instead. I want to design a replacement PCB for G613 with MX switches.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Sounds like you too got your keyboard wet. I cleaned my G13 Orion once with liquids and practically destroyed it. G502 Hero is top class esp when taking price into consideration.

I’ve owned a G500s G502 and 2 G502 hero in the past 10 years and just got a 502 Hero Lightspeed. God I love it

All are still working

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

I liked my G512 so much I bought a second one to use at work but both had issues with keycaps breaking and LEDs dying. And the middle scroll on both my G403 mice had issues after a few months of use.

I’ve had to stop buying Logitech stuff, though I’ve still got a set of Z207 speakers that I like. Now I have a real mechanical keyboard that I can repair and a couple Glorious mice which are mostly okay.

I miss the days of the Logitech MX518 mouse. I had one that I probably used for like 5-6+ years, maybe longer. Solid mouse, no bullshit, indestructible.

permalink
report
parent
reply
24 points
*

My right-out-of-warranty Logitech M590 mouse lost its pairing to its USB-receiver upon booting up Windows after using the mouse in Linux for weeks out-of-warranty. I bought another one, and that too did the same the first time I booted up Windows after the warranty had expired.

Finally I searched the issue, and it’s normal. I had to install a non-default Logitech software in Windows and re-pair the apparently broken mice to their receivers. Both mice work again, except the older one’s left button is acting up a bit.

A non-asshole company would have notified me “Your mouse receiver needs an update that requires re-pairing the connection manually. Do you want to continue the update?”. And why the hell would a mouse receiver need an update when the warranty ends?

Obviously the purpose is to make the mouse appear broken with plausible deniability and bluff the customer into buying a new mouse.

This is known as programmed obsolescence.

permalink
report
reply
4 points

I’ve been using many low to mid tier Logitech mice without your issue, multiple years. I currently have 2 different ones m705 & g903 lightspeed and they have been fine for 3-4 years

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

which is insane; mice have mechanical parts! they physically wear out!

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Technically this is true. Practically my intellimouse 1.0, and sidewinder x8 still work perfectly.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

ive had Logitech mice wear out, though not from office use.

permalink
report
parent
reply

PC Master Race

!pcmasterrace@lemmy.world

Create post

A community for PC Master Race.

Rules:

  1. No bigotry: Including racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
  2. Be respectful. Everyone should feel welcome here.
  3. No NSFW content.
  4. No Ads / Spamming.
  5. Be thoughtful and helpful: even with ‘stupid’ questions. The world won’t be made better or worse by snarky comments schooling naive newcomers on Lemmy.

Notes:

Community stats

  • 739

    Monthly active users

  • 382

    Posts

  • 7.1K

    Comments