Well, Microsoft is getting ready to annoy its faithful Windows 10 user base with yet another prompt. This time, Microsoft wants Windows 10 users to switch from using a local account to their online Microsoft account.

106 points

Man, Microsoft really seems like they don’t want power users on their OS anymore. Forced AI junk, Ads, MS accounts, and all kinds of other junk. Waiting to see what the Linux Desktop adoption numbers are this fall.

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42 points

2023 was the year of the Linux laptop for me. 2024 is shaping up to be the year of the Linux desktop for myself as well.

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3 points

Funny, I just picked up a Laptop for Linux. To help bring my self to a Linux Desktop.

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5 points

What’s the tidiest distro these days?

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Still sad because my Precision 5560 (same as XPS 9510) has this floaty trackpad bug on Ubuntu and Pop OS for whatever reason! (I haven’t tried any other distro). Much easier for me to swap to Linux on my laptop than my desktop because my laptop is just for Python, LaTeX, and MATLAB.

Dell even sells a 5560 with Ubuntu preinstalled, but they don’t make it available for users. But I have not for the life of me been able to get the track-pad bug to go away.

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13 points

Here’s the fix (yoinked from archwiki)

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5 points

Try a more modern kernel. Lookup installing mainline kernels on Ubuntu. Pretty easy.

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3 points

You could wait a couple of days and try ubuntu 24.04

with its much newer kernel it might not have that issue

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8 points

As much as I like to see this sentiment, I think now as ever the people who actually follow through with moving to Linux will be few in number.

Most users who get fed up and decide the hell with it are likely to just buy a Mac instead, as revolting a development as that may be.

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Adoption rate is increasing from what I’ve heard. But you’re right, Linux/a Linux distribution isn’t going to take over anytime soon.

But I think once those users truly switched to Linux, very few will switch back. Sure there’ll be the odd gamer who absolutely “needs” to play that one game which has anti-cheat that’s unsupported on Linux. But other than that, once you’re in, you’re likely in for good. And long-term you pass it on to your family, mainly your children (my first computer was a DOS/Windows machine mostly because my dad used the OS himself then).

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Yeah, I switched to Mint back in 2019 and can’t imagine going back. I have a Windows dual boot for certain games, but whenever I use it it feels like such a terrible experience compared to Linux. I don’t think I’ve used it in a couple months because of that lol.

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yeah this was me. swapped to Mac. Couldn’t bring myself to sign up to all the debugging that would go into having a Linux based laptop. I left windows due to the overhead of disabling the bloatware, popups and general bullshit. I didn’t want to swap that for other ongoing issues. Just give me something that works. It’s an OS, not a hobby project

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Yeah, but Mac is actually weird and unintuitive. Like, I never figured out that to install programs you have to drag them in. I just clicked on the icon after opening the .dmg

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are likely to just buy a Mac instead

That’s fine, actually. I can talk to a Mac user. I can say things like “it’s in a folder under your Home directory” and they will know exactly where that is. Windows users will just stare at you, slack-jawed and drooling.

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Windows user A will not know what their home directory is and will respond as described. Windows user B will assume that it is their “my documents” folder, which may or may not be the case, because: Windows user C will know that there are effectively three home directories in Windows (/users/username, /users/username/documents, and /users/username/appadata/local) but that won’t help anybody determine which one some program actually put the goddamn file in.

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Which has the exact same issues, but they are presented as “ecosystem” so it’s ok

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1 point

Sounds more like they don’t want any users

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5 points

they dont, they want subscribers

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2 points

The modern software industry is a blight upon this world. I should know; I’m part of it.

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33 points

Obligatory “switch to Linux to turn it off” comment.

But honestly, Windows becoming more annoying and actively working against me is the reason I finally switched 4 months ago. It wasn’t that Windows is proprietary, or that Linux has some technological advantages (as Windows probably has others) or that I disliked the desktop environment or whatever. It got in my way, and that’s disrespectful and time consuming. I don’t want my OS to get in my way, I want to do things with my computer.

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The irritating thing about all this is, at least if Raymond Chen is to be believed, the OS letting you do what you want without getting in your way was actually a/the core design philosophy of Windows up until probably the end of the XP era. It seems with Vista they started losing the plot, and by the time of Windows 8 Microsoft had fully committed to going completely off the rails.

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Honestly, Windows 7 was kind of good. It’s the last Windows OS I could stand to use because it’s the last one that was offline. You could do whatever you want and update whenever you want, there were no ads in the start menu or whatever

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93 points

Knock it off, Microsoft. You’re not my buddy, you’re an OS. Your job is to sit down, shut up, and run the programs I choose. That’s it.
If I find a function that’s useful for more than a week, I might make a batch file for it. Until then, you’re spare code.

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4 points

You’re not mah buddeh Guy!

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2 points

I’m not your guy, friend!

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1 point

I’m Guy your friend, not!

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I’m not your friend, buddeh!

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35 points

Personally I love that Microsoft did this. Please keep making windows more and more shit and annoying to use so people will switch to something else

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45 points

You vastly underestimate the tolerance of an average user who barely knows their way around a web browser and Word.

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1 point

facts

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8 points

My mom doesn’t even have a computer. She’s already retired so there’s not much money to squeeze from that demographic. In my late 20s, 30s and 40s I could build a new computer no problem. I use Linux. There’s no going back ever. Unfortunately I use windows at work cuz I’m forced to do that and I occasionally have to help my wife to windows some shit. No, my kids are going down the Linux rabbit hole.

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Windows users will add a new PowerShell command or registry hack to the pile of shit to do to clean up a fresh install, and keep complaining that Linux is too hard.

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Lol yeah I keep hearing about the commands and stuff people have to do at Win11 installation to stop it from forcing you to have an account or satisfy MS’s ridiculous TPM requirements. I hear about the commands people run to disable (most) telemetry, and the registry edits people use to prevent Windows from spawning ads, etc.

And I’m like damn, why is windows so complicated? It should never be required that a user open a terminal/command prompt.

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7 points

Man I have to take this tone with every LLM I talk to.

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50 points

I turned it off two weeks ago by installing Mint.

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21 points

For a second I was wondering how the money management app that intuit just killed stopped this for you. Forgot that’s also a distro, I’m a dumbass.

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Well said.

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7 points

If you’re referencing the bypass used on new windows 11 machines they patched it.

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2 points

Im not surprised really

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7 points

I hope the person who implemented the bypass didn’t get shit for it. And fuck, hope there’s a new way

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3 points

If there is I still can’t find it. I’ve been using a generic email address and creating a new profile deleting the Microsoft one. It’s annoying af

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5 points

Even if you put in a bogus user and pw three times? Not joking, that used to let you get a local account option.

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3 points

Oh I tried a lot more than 3 times

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The bypassnro command still works though. Installed 23H2 in a VM yesterday and it worked fine.

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Nice thanks

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