The European Commission argues it was Europe’s students and young graduates who were most affected by Brexit’s mobility restrictions. The UK has reportedly responded cooly to the proposal.

The European Union is trying to improve mobility between its 27 member-states and the UK, particularly for people between the ages of 18 and 30. But whether such a proposal would be welcomed by London remains to be seen.

The EU’s executive arm, the European Commission, is trying to open bloc-wide talks with the UK on allowing youth from EU countries to study or work and live in Britain for up to four years, with the same arrangement for British youth.

The proposal would largely revert youth mobility to pre-Brexit times, when members of the then-28-member EU, including Britain, were allowed to work and study without visa requirements. The Commission’s new plan would involve a visa, but one whose fees would not be “excessive.”

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Everyday we are reminded of the damage that state-sponsored misinformation can do.

The stupidest part about brexit was that it was a non-binding referendum. They could have just ignored it. But I guess sometimes you need your house to burn down before you realize why we need a publicly funded fire department.

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It’s was only non-binding if they lost, like they had previously. Asshats like Farrage were just going to keep trying until they got the answer they wanted.

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Having a referendum then ignoring the result because it’s not what you wanted or expected might not have gone down so well. Especially when that referendum was the carrot used to get people to vote for Cameron

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But I guess sometimes you need your house to burn down before you realize why we need a publicly funded fire department.

Question… were you bringing up the house out in Tennessee that burned down because the county didn’t have a publicly funded fire department? Because if so, that’s a hell of a deep cut.

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EU, please let Canada in while you’re at it. We share a border with denmark

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Also France is just a short ferry ride away if you count St. Pierre and Miquelon .

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France is already in the EU though

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Shhhh! Some of them don’t know

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Brazilian here, from the country that shares the largest of the borders of France…

The free movement of people have been nice, is there any chance the they would pressure Brazil into losing a bit of sovereignty and obey the EU’s Constitution?

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imagine all country that border EU states start joining in lol

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No need to actually join :)

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You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.

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I’m all for it, but no weird extra right like the UK had. Also, would that perhaps be a problem with your monarchy?

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While the governor general (rep of the crown) technically has to sign off on laws passed, they have never in the country’s history refused to sign. If they ever did, I think it might be enough for Canada to kick the “monarchy” part of the constitutional monarchy for good.

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Thats good then. I’ve heard today that he once refused the formation after an election, so they had to reelect.

I feel like Canada would actually fit into the EU, besides not being in the continent of Europe.

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As an American please let us in on it

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Why? So we can import school shootings?

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Fuck no, get rid of the guns first, you cowards

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As long as it’s mutual, so 18-30 year old EU citizens can live and work in the UK with little restriction, I’m all for this. I imagine there may be people in the UK who will take issue with that.

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A lot of people were given false hope that Brexit would magically solve all their problems. People now regret it.

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I’d love if the UK could again be part of the EU. Brexit was the most damaging blow Russia did to Europe in the past 3 decades at least.

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There is a reasonable amount of damage being done in Ukraine by Russia just now, but I understand where you are coming from.

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They won’t be allowed back under the same terms they had before the exit. For example every new member has to become part of the Eurozone and adopt the Euro. I definitely see this becoming a dealbreaker for British conservatives who love to have their master King on their currency

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The thing is, that won’t work well either. The UK had a very special position previously in the EU, like not adopting the Euro as currency and many other extra “perks” or whatever you want to call it. If they go back in they will likely not get any of those since otherwise it will look really bad for other countries that recently joined. Then people will be unhappy about joining again because it is not what they remembered. So, no, there is no winning with this one, damage is done.

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100% agree. C’mon back lads. I’ll buy the first round.

Surely a vote is warranted at this point. Maybe after the Tories get hoofed out.

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What’s crazy is that it was revealed that the leave campaign was all intentionally lies and that it wasn’t what people actually wanted and the government just said “too bad.”

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What’s crazier is Boris Johnson, Michael Grove, and the rest didn’t face any repercussions for the lies.

They even still have their jobs in parliament!

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Why restrict the ages? Looks like corporate vying for cheap labor.

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I see this as the EU moving pieces to influence the UK people to revert brexit in a generation (Bregret? Breback?). It benefits the demographic that was already against brexit and keeps the idea od Europe in their minds.

I doubt is for cheap labor. I work in London and in a team of 20 we have a single British, and the few in the company tend to have an easier path for leadership, so why leave? That has been similar in all my previous jobs.

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Here’s a revolutionary idea: don’t set an age limit!

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Sunak already killed this, so it doesn’t matter really. If it passed, it would have been a step towards re-establishing free movement for everyone.

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Unfortunately it excludes a great deal of gen x and millennials as well who may have voted remain.

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Also certainly those 18-30 year olds will continue to age until they no longer qualify…

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Age shouldn’t be a factor, perhaps make it a requirement to agree to a new EU branded passport instead?

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Also the millennials though

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Removed, advocating violence. Totally cool up until the last line.

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I would make the argument that wishing people would hurry up and die of old age is not actually advocating violence per se

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Wishing that people die is the same thing.

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The UK already has its own Youth Mobility scheme, where it had already struck deals with 13 countries.

If I’m correct, the countries are:

  • Australia
  • Canada
  • New Zealand
  • South Korea
  • Andorra
  • Iceland
  • Japan
  • Monaco
  • San Marino
  • Uruguay
  • Hong Kong
  • Taiwan
  • India

If this is what the UK leadership see as the better choice for British citizens, then it’s up to the citizens of Great Britain to do something about it in the next election.

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Surely, they are not mutually exclusive and some form of this scheme has been in place for some countries (albeit mainly white commonwealth countries) for many years, even when the UK was in the EU.

Holy shit though, I just looked up the UK’s scheme and you have to pay almost a grand in fees (mostly NHS surcharge) and have over £2,500 in savings. I don’t want rich a-holes coming over for an extended holiday instead of normal people from more different cultures. Let’s vote for better and fairer immigration polices

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I feel sorry for those who feel having £3500 makes you rich.

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I get the sentiment but you’re glossing over two important things; 48.11% of people voted to remain and there hasn’t been a second referendum.

Half the country wanted to remain, the other half are racists and/or idiots that believed the outright lies peddled by the leave campaign. Latest polls suggest 60% would vote to remain today but we’re not being offered the chance to vote on that. Voting labour in general elections doesn’t mean we get to rejoin the EU.

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Voting isn’t the only way to get things to change. Politics doesn’t start at the Parliament. It starts with you actually putting in time and effort making sure that local changes happens.

If your engagement doesn’t stretch further than a like on Facebook you’re actually getting what you want…

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Not the same as travelling in the EU. None of those countries you mentioned are in the EU.

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No one has said it’s the same. The Brits are however saying they’re happy with the existing agreements.

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