I self host pretty much everything, but one of the services I find makes more sense to not self host is an email server.

I’ve got a few domains I’d like to have emails for, and usually I’d go for Tutanota or protonmail. But in this instance I’m looking for something dirt cheap. These domains are for a hobby club so I’m much less concerned with privacy like I usually would be. Anybody got any recommendations?

So far namecheap seems like my best option for under $8/month. They would bundle with my domain registration and I’m assuming having both on the same service would make things pretty seamless to set up.

Not crazy concerned with privacy for these particular accounts. Namecheap or similar is reputable enough.

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That’s my setup. I like selfhosting, but leave email to other services. I got tired of being on blacklists.

That said, namecheap email servers are still on blacklists. I’ve locked horns with tech support a couple times because legit email gets dropped. Unless you pay for a vps or something more expensive, you’re thrown in with the spam and scum class.

It works for the most part for my needs.

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I emailed Microsoft to get my domain removed from their blacklist and it worked within 48 hours. Aslong as my domain has it’s correct security settings I no longer go to spam. Gmail didn’t seem to care as much.

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Is it transactional emails, one-to-many, or like a message board where people get email notifications? I’m not sure I’ll have a good answer but I suspect that context would change some answers.

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Forwarded mail but it may be two way in the future so it would probably be smart to just go that route from the beninging.

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If you use Namecheap for email domain(s) you may want to consider also splurging for their PremiumDNS to keep your domain(s) off spam blocks at other email providers.

I help maintain some emails at Gmail/Google Workspace but the domains themselves are at Namecheap. For a while there were complaints that some emails never landed in other people’s inboxes… this led me to talk about the issue with one of the email provider recipients based in the UK & apparently they were null routing anything coming from Namecheap since they felt a lot of spam came from them. But after some experimenting I figured out their system (& probably others) were figuring out they were Namecheap domains via the default FreeDNS they use. On a hunch I switched those domains over to PremiumDNS and after that all our emails were landing in other inboxes correctly. I guess maybe it makes sense, a typical spammer buying a cheap domain at Namecheap isn’t going to splurge for the higher end DNS service for it.

I’m not saying all email providers treat Namecheap domains as spam but just be warned there definitely ones out there that do.

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I don’t understand how this could be the issue.

If you’re using Google Workspace, Google will give you the appropriate DMARC, DKIM and SPF records to add to your DNS. The NS themselves should resolve the records and provide the recipient server with the values you’ve entered, thereby ensuring delivery.

Does the free DNS on NameCheap no longer allow certain types of records? Aren’t those mail specific DNS records all just TXT/CNAME records now (no more weird legacy SPF record type), which are fairly basic and typical?

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If you’re using Google Workspace, Google will give you the appropriate DMARC, DKIM and SPF records to add to your DNS. The NS themselves should resolve the records and provide the recipient server with the values you’ve entered, thereby ensuring delivery.

Sure. But why would that matter when you’re dealing with hostile 3rd party email providers that intentionally want to blackhole all email domains at Namecheap? But yes, just to clarify I do configure DMARC/DKIM/SPF and that works great for most cases.

I’m just describing what worked for me though in truth I don’t know exactly how these hostile email providers actually determine the domain is hosted at Namecheap. My hunch is that they are using a lookup & finding the nameserver for the domain & have already blacklisted Namecheap’s default free nameserver IP addresses. For whatever reason those same hostile email providers don’t seem to be blacklisting Namecheap’s paid nameserver but I think that sort of makes sense…

The larger issue is that Namecheap is known for cheap domains that scammers/spammers tend to buy in bulk & then use to spam with. Those same scammers/spammers aren’t trying to spend extra money so they only ever use the default free Namecheap nameservers.

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No it does not make any sense. There are literally thousands of domain registrars out there; almost every single last one of them will offer free DNS service with registration. Also, more specifically speaking, DNS provider host provider look up is not even part of email delivery flow.

The most well known spam registrar is GoDaddy as they spam ads everywhere, and everyone and their third cousin’s dogs know about them. NameCheap is a large registrar but isn’t that big of a fish comparatively speaking. But, regardless, blocking any registrars that size the way you’re describing would break way more businesses and hurt the recipient provider’s own reputation. This honestly starting to sound more and more like a smear campaign as opposed to anything grounded in actual technology.

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ionos.com is $1/month and you can use external domain names. That plan includes the cost of a domain name as well, so you can transfer the external domain over if you really like it.

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IONOS don’t support 2048-bit DKIM keys though, which I consider to be a pretty hefty point against them.

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https://mxroute.com/ or https://www.fastmail.com/

I picked up a cheap lifetime account on mxroute a while back and have been pretty happy with it.

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