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for the love of god use a free open source app like keepass, this is a untrustworthy company

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Or even better use a local password manager. People will be swallowed by so much false comfort

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Isn’t keepass local?

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keepass is local

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Which F-Droid client is that?

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Looks like the standard F-Droid client

Oh wait it’s not, F-Droid doesn’t show the file size at the top

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huh, my standard f-droid client does show the file size

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Yeah everything except the file size showing checks out

Edit : maybe it is the new versions or beta which most of us don’t have as it is not suggested .

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it’s the standard one

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I’ve been using Keepass like more than 5 years. And its perfect.

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both of them you download and use, it requires the smae amount of technical knowledge. in fact you could argue, that proton pass takes more technical expertise since you need to set up a account online first.

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Hanno iniziato da un po’ di tempo a fornire troppi servizi, dovrebbero focalizzarsi di più a sistemare quelli che hanno. La webmail di Protonmail è un abominio: perdita di selezione multipla aprendo un’email, email che ricompaiono subito dopo averle cancellate, ricerca…stendiamo un velo pietoso!

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The backend is proprietary. Avoid.

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Avoid why?

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Because we only know what the client does, and have no clue on the server side of things, allowing Proton to do any manipulations with the data. Not ideal when you consider it for password storage.

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What should I use then?

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if the client is e2ee and you can control that, then why is the server relevant?

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As all things Proton.

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Even steam proton?

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Except anything Valve, which is awesome.

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Best alternative for email?

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E2E Encrypted FOSS smoke signals that are only visible on a Time-Based One-Time wavelength of light are the only way.

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I use their mail system, and it’s pretty good ngl

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They need to focus on providing quality services instead of quantity. The ProtonMail webmail is a shame: multiple selection lost if you click just outside the checkbox because that will open the email, emails that just after have been deketed reappear in the inbox and don’t get me started on the search 🤢!

P.s. I’ve double commented because I’ve just realized that I’ve written the other comment in Italian 😆, sorry.

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the password manager kinda sucks too. credit cards are in a category that you have to delete the name of the site you’re visiting in order to see. sometimes I question why I’m paying for the thing. lastpass was way better 10 years ago.

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I’ll still stick with bitwarden, but if I were to introduce someone very tech illiterate, I would probably recommend proton

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I’m tech illiterate and been using Bitwarden for 3 years (premium), and honestly it doesn’t work very well on Android. Every time I need to enter a password, it’s completely hit-or-miss with Bitwarden. Half of the time it doesn’t even pop up. I’m using Xiaomi phone and tablet with stock rom (global version).

Should I switch to Proton?

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Before switching you should maybe read this and wait for the native app : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/1b32bbz/going_native_the_future_of_the_bitwarden_mobile/

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Wow thanks, I have no idea. That’s great news. I’ll definitely wait for the native app. But in the meantime I’ll try out Proton as a “backup” just in case something bad happens to Bitwarden or my personal vault.

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Which sites or apps does it not pop up? It is rare for it not to pop up for me.

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Sometimes you have to long press on the password box and bitwarden might appear or a little “autofill” option may appear along in the 3 vertical dots pop up. Most of the time, Bitwarden auto pops up for me.

I feel like if you’re already using Bitwarden and you’re talking to us on Lemmy, you’re not tech illiterate.

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Same problem on 1password.

As a mobile developer I can tell you that working with Android keyboards has been a giant fucking pain in ass since inception to today.

While I can’t speak specifically to why they both seem to have this problem, I wouldn’t be surprised if the OS is part of the problem.

I wouldn’t be shocked that if someone had it working consistently, it might be because of the most heinous hacks, or private greylisted APIs or some other nonsense.

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I do remember trying several different keyboard apps, but none works consistently enough and some don’t even work at all.

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I have the same issue with Keepass2Android. I think the issue is with Android itself rather than the password app.

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Install the keyboard autotype plugin for Keepass2Android!

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Try the free version and switch to premium if you like it better than bitwarden.

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In terms of “Free version”, what would be better? What would you recommend if I were to use one as Premium (daily use) and the other as Free (for backup purpose)?

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