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This conversation is held daily over in the echo chamber known as !conservative@lemm.ee

Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.

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Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.

So just like the old subreddit then? Weird how that piece of culture sticks with them.

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The difference is that on Reddit I got suspended from the entire site for “report abuse” because I (correctly) reported misinformation in r/conservative and it hurt the snowflake mods’ fee-fees.

In other words, Lemmy is structurally superior because there are no fascist admins with the power to ban you from the entire network.

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Lmao, I reported genocidal comments in r/worldnews and was site banned for the same reason.

I had 4 reports total, 2 were acted on and the other 2 were pretty blatant calls to violence.

It’s actually what made me quit Reddit.

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Being banned from a conservative zone is like a mark of quality humanship.

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It’s full of bad faith arguments, putting rules before humanity, the strictest possible interpretation of those rules, and they LOVE to put words in your mouth or waste your time asking for resources that they won’t read and will just respond “What are you even talking about?” because they’ve already moved the goal posts. Their newest mod spent his first hour as a mod getting in fights about Hunter Biden’s laptop and is so vehemently against tax increases because he’s one of the rich whose taxes would probably go up. He’ll gladly tell you that the rich are already paying TOO MUCH and they wouldn’t benefit from paying more.

But, hey, at least they ban the R word and homophobia.

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I can still remember how the news in fucking Germany changed. Suddenly, once Biden was in office, we didn’t get US politics in our evening news multiple times per week anymore. The United States became silent again.

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Make America Boring Again

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I long for the days when I thought government was boring and not worth my time. I know too much now too go all the way back, but it’s refreshing to have someone just quietly running the nation without starting a shitstorm every time their ego gets a little bit bruised.

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It was always worth your time. The whole boomer mentality of not talking about politics is how we got into this mess.

But I’m glad you’re with us now. The sane need all the help we can get.

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We need to elect PhDs who have proven intellectual rigor and base decisions off data. The current setup is nothing more than a soap opera ran off corporate donations.

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No, what we need is for all politicians to have served as teachers, professional childcare providers or medical professionals for at least five years before they can run for federal or state office.

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Look at all these fucking Russian/MAGA trolls in the comments trying to play a “both sides” thing.

I was there. I lived through both. You can go fuck yourself. Like trump.

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There’s a visibly coordinated effort to trash Biden and/or democrats on lemmy. The commentary is all the same. They use some form of “both sides” blaming both democrats and republicans for being awful while attacking voting for either. They focus hard on Israel and call Biden “Genocide Joe” or some similar derogatory term. Overall, they always pick at Biden’s policy completely devoid of nuance while never discussing Trump’s policies past or planned. I got several posts removed from /world calling out such similar comments.

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Conversely, every single time someone makes a legitimate criticism of Biden or the Democratic establishment (and there are many to be made), someone dismisses it as “both sides”.

Democrats are undoubtedly better than Republicans. Biden is undoubtedly better than Trump. Both parties are still corrupted by mega-donors and entrenched elitism.

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I have no problem with legitimate criticism. There’s plenty to criticize. However, when that criticism is derogatory, often baseless, and comes with the aforementioned attacks on voting, you bet your *** that there was nothing constructive about it.

The only people propping up their argument these days with “both sides” are the willfully uneducated and the conservatives.

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Or they call you a Russian asset/plant/bot or whatever.

Further, if you’re a wage earner, chances are pretty good nothing has happened under Biden to make meaningful positive change in your life, so why skip a day’s pay you desperately need in order to vote?

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And it’s always either lemmygrad or Lemmy.ml

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as expected, socialists and communist can’t and won’t tolerate the existence of a fascist state

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While I’m sure these trolls exist, I think there is still a minority that genuinely disliked the dems and don’t want to support genocide.

My point is: everytime I see someone saying that lemmy is having a coordinated effort to trash Biden, it kind of makes me trust that statement less because I’m one of those who actually criticizes Biden without trolling.

This is why those trolls are so effective, cause their goal is not to troll us, is to get us to troll and argue with each other over miscommunications they started.

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Then I don’t think you understand the difference between trolling and criticism. There is absolutely plenty to criticize about Biden, and criticism should be done, however making up “genocide Joe” comments, trashing on voting for him, and implying potential supporters are complicit in the actions of the administration is not criticism.

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lmao, genocide joe shills, i hope trump wins…

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That’s the thing, Trump did accomplish something - he showed that radicalism in a position like the president is possible. One can act like an autocrat and actually get things done. He showed that being cut throat to accomplish your political ends is possible even when in power.

Obama had a chance to put in a second Supreme Court Justice near the end of his second term, but decided it was too close to the election and wouldn’t be fair to the democratic process… Then came Trump. Trump’s accomplishment was showing the world what radical rightwing politics could do.

Now we have imitators around the world and new strains of fascism.

Many on the left feel like similar is in order on the left. So don’t blame the tankies, as they’re as much a product of the times as anything else… And it’s quite easy to want a radical leader when it’s this obvious that the system is no longer efficient at serving the will of the people… Or should I say, the will of the left.

RIP Bernie Sanders’ presidential run. Hopefully we’ll get someone similar, but we won’t get there without making the demand clear as possible.

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Obama had a chance to put in a second Supreme Court Justice near the end of his second term, but decided it was too close to the election and wouldn’t be fair to the democratic process

Obama didn’t decide anything. The GOP had majority. They stonewalled his nomination.

Obama’s mistake was to not give a forced ‘thank you for your service, you deserve rest’ to RBG when DNC had majority.

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I honestly don’t get the hate against Biden. From what I’ve seen, he’s old and he’s done a whole lot of good, more than the average democratic president.

Him being the choice over Trump should be an obvious, nearly anyone over Trump is the better choice, so what the hell is wrong with these people wanting to vote trump or not vote at all just to stick it to Biden?

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Prior to being the VP and now President, he had a long political career as an establishment corporate Democrat. His home state is where almost all US usury is headquartered, and he consistently sold out the American people to those corporations. He sponsored the bill removing bankruptcy options from student loans, sided with the banks and credit card companies on interest rates and fees, was a war hawk, and was more than “it was just how it was at the time” racist.

Essentially every bit of the “whole lot of good” has been an 11th hour change of heart and fixing problems he was more than complicit in creating. Add to that the DNC manipulation to block other candidates, and you have the South Park special of a Douche vs. a Turd Sandwich.

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You like “usury” don’t ya. The word. I noticed you used it a couple of times already.

Usury. Has some weight to it, doesn’t it. Some heft. It’s got . . . connotations.

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Do you have a better word for lending money and charging exorbitant interest rates, fees, or conditions to unjustly enrich the lender? I could just call them legally gray loan sharks, which they are, but the laws surrounding the governance of money lending are actually called usury laws. That’s why I used the term. I think the Banks and Credit companies that have bled the countries bottom 50% dry and have nearly succeeded in eliminating the middle class qualify for the label, but you do you.

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I honestly don’t get the hate against Biden.

I hate on Biden, even though I believe he is a good president overall. My hate stems for the very obvious (maybe petty) reason:

He is the wrong direction. The way to beat fascism is by being bold, progressive and forward thinking. Biden is basically the “let’s play it safe” candidate. All well and good, but clearly he did not reduce the appetite for fascism.

And yes, I think Bernie would have.

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I agree almost entirely. Boldness is the way to defeat fascism, and Biden is not bold enough.

At the same time, I do think there is a caveat. Reducing the appetite for fascism is reliant on success, and, if I am being honest, fucking no one was going to be successful in this political climate with this Congress and electorate. If Bernie flounders, progressivism is discredited, even if it’s not at all his fault; even if he, individually, is doing the best anyone could be expected to do. If Biden, who is very much a moderate on most issues, flounders, appetite for change increases.

There’s a sick calculus in politics that, though you as a voter should always vote for the best candidate who has a serious chance to win, in objective analysis, the best candidate winning isn’t always the best thing for the cause.

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primaries, and if the 2024 primary was at all serious instead of locked-in to the incumbent, seriously speaking, I would vote for him in 2024 too, just to be clear.

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i honestly don’t get the hate against drumpf, isn’t the us a fascist state already?

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