36 points

Your post just links to its own icon. Did you have an article to link to instead?

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I’m assuming it’s this article.

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Gracias

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De nada.

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If this is accurate that’s troubling

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I apologize. I included an image in the submission and it seems it hijacked the URL. I’ve edited the submission to include the link.

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i have that issue too, sometimes. it’s either image or link. maybe you are not supposed to use both fields at the same time?

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73 points

After their crypto crap, this doesn’t surprise me one bit.

And don’t give me that “You can disable the crypto” the fact is, you shouldn’t have to because it shouldn’t have ever been included in the first place.

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At least it wasnt an NFT? ive never used brave, this is all news to me

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Seriously, early on this company literally deployed a mass MITM attack against their entire userbase.

Any company that pulls some shit like that is just going to do it again whenever they think they can get away with it.

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28 points

Breaking their users’ trust by appending attribution tags to their URLs should’ve been unforgivable but I still see people pushing their browser online

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161 points

I never understood why anyone would use Brave, the payouts are small, the utility of the crypto is zero, and watching/seeing adverts is a nightmare. I honestly believe that blocking all advertising and sending a small monetary amount to someone providing value is a better way of supporting the people you care about.

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I made roughly $1200 using Brave at work.

It is optional to open the ad or not and you do get paid half what you would even if you don’t view the ad. I turned on max number of adds per hour and clicked no most of the time. Took me maybe 10 seconds per hour while I was getting paid to work already. Sure the per ad money got poor over time, but at first it wasn’t so bad at first and I was making a couple bucks per day. Converted that to Bitcoin every month and that has nearly doubled in price. So if I converted to USD right now I’m at $1200 for a grand total of under 9 hours worth of work over 1.5 years. So my hourly pay plus clicking no to the ad I made $166 a hour on average.

My company’s software stopped working with Brave about half a year ago and now I use Firefox.

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No, you can take your own BAT out and sell it. It’s been some time but I believe they have a function to sell directly on an exchange. Else, you’ll need to buy Ethereum and use it to transfer to any other exchange

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I might be wrong, as I’ve never used Brave, but isn’t it the case that they remove ads from the actual content owners and replace them with their own ads, basically monetizing other people’s content? I block all ads in my browser, don’t get me wrong, but what Brave is doing seems a bit shady to me.

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No. The ads from brave itself are only on new tabs and notifications.

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They do that, but not in that way. The websites will appear without ads, but once in a while their ad will pop up in a new window/tab. This is optional though

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the payouts

wait, what? I was just looking for a search engine that does least tracking and brave was recommended a few times, so I use that, but have never seen any ads or been offered any payout? Am I doing it wrong? (for the record, if they’d offered me payment to watch ads I would have never even installed it in the first place, and will now be removing it as my default on firefox)

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no, you are right. there is a lot of talk about the brave browser in this thread, a chromium based ad blocking browser by the brave company that gives you their own crypto in return for unobtrusive ads on the start page, which can then be used to donate to content creators on the internet (i think) or be cashed in. you and the op are talking about brave search, a search engine created by the same company

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ah, that would explain it, thanks!

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I’ve been using brave browser for years and, while I vaguely know what you’re talking about, it’s not something I’ve ever even looked at.

The defining feature of Brave for me has always been the built-in ad blocking.

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I don’t think people use Brave for any crypto stuff all that much. I use it to block ads.

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Yeah can I get adblock on iPhone with Firefox?

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There are adblockers extensions for iphone, like adGuard. It will remove ads on Safari (doesn’t work with other browsers unfortunately)

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You can use pihole and route your traffic there with a vpn such as tailscale to block ads and more

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You can with Firefox Focus! Though to be clear, safari with AdGuard is much better. Even better when used together NextDNS and the HaGaZi blocklist.

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25 points

I used it for the perceived level of privacy they pretended to offer. Guess I’m switching to Firefox tomorrow.

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Yep, exactly my thought too. I’ve made too many hops but none of these products truly offer privacy.

I moved from Telegram to Signal for security only to learn more and more about the holes in Signal. At least Proton Mail is fine.

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Like a lot of things, it was good at first. Then they made it shitty.

I had small ads that I barely noticed, no need for any crypto account, and it gave me 5~10€/month to automatically send to Wikipedia (or any website I felt like paying).

Now that crypto account is mandatory it’s just useless…

I still use it on a few devices but mainly because I’m too lazy to replace it by something else.

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I use Firefox over Brave simply because I have much more trust that Mozilla won’t suddenly turn into dicks.

(Also because Firefox is awesome now, and because competition in the browser world is a good thing, but it’s mainly the probably-not-being-dicks thing)

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I got downvoted to shit on Reddit for saying stuff like this (on the weirdly frequent posts about how great Brave is)

Ig I’ve found my people now

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Firefox has been super good for me as well. I switched from Chrome a few years ago and initially had the occasional issue, but thinking about it now I can’t recall the last time I had an issue with Firefox that forced me to use another browser.

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How so? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything negative against the company, but I’d love to know if I missed something.

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lmao still thinking moz corporation is your friend

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Firefox. The slowest browser, the least compatible browser, the most annoying when it comes to bugs and issues (Firefox snap anyone?)

I just cannot disagree more. You seriously have to gaslight yourself into liking it.

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What a strange take. I switched from Opera to Firefox like 15+ years ago (whenever Firefox added extensions, so I could use Mouse Gestures (why I was on Opera in the first place))

I never have issues with compatibility or speed. I don’t use Google products so I don’t have Chrome to compare it to, but it’s certainly as fast as/faster an IE/Edge.

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Wow, that is quite a presumption there. Every couple years I try Chrome again and I am done with it in a few hours. The thing is archaic and its interface uncustomizable. And the only reason it could maybe have more compatibility is because of its market share and peoples’ bias towards it. There was once a time over ten years ago when it was good, but it’s not anymore. Not to mention the privacy issues.

Firefox has been my browser for 10 years or longer.

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Not that Mozilla has been 100% great either. Remember the Mr. Robot debacle?

If not: https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/16/16784628/mozilla-mr-robot-arg-plugin-firefox-looking-glass

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When mouthing this opinion back on Reddit I got swamped with downvotes and crypto apologists immediately. But in my opinion brave is shady af and I don’t see their value over Firefox and a reasonable ad blocker, maybe a pi-hole and anti tracking.

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I thought it was supposed to be the best privacy browser but after reading these comments my view has changed completely and have switched all devices to Firefox.

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On windows the adverts are a little windows notification that pops up in the bottom right and you can ignore it or click close. I wouldn’t call that a nightmare. What do they look like for you and what platform are you using?

I don’t care about the “utility of the crypto”, it’s just free money to me. I use brave with bing to do what I already do, and I get paid in Microsoft rewards and brave crypto that I can sell. Win-win.

I don’t care about any advertisers, and I damn well aren’t sending any of them any money lol.

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The problem isn’t the ads, it’s the quantity. And they turn themselves into OS level alerts, that you train yourself to ignore

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You can literally choose the quantity that you want to see though. You’re choosing to have them pop up, and how often, based on how much you want to earn. You can choose none, or every option between 1 and 10 per hour. I choose 10 because then I get paid the most and I literally just click “close” on the little popup that comes up in the bottom right of the screen, or I just ignore it.

Have you actually used it?

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Can anyone recommend a good alternative that works well under Linux and block ads and trackers well? In particular YouTube ads?

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Firefox with uBlock Origin has been working well for me, for ads at least. I haven’t looked too much into blocking trackers but I think Firefox has some ability to do that

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Yeah it has some and if it doesnt work Extensions can help out. As it uses still the v2 manifest. It is just straight up better to use firefox ( or their “children” like librefox ( a bit hardend firefox browser ). It doesnt depending on chromium, its not a big Corporate that is super greedy.

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Firefox with uBlock Origin ✔

What about a search engine though?

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This is the golden combo in my opinion. uBlock Origin is an excellent adblocker and it works best with Firefox. The built-in privacy features of Firefox are also decent, even when left at the default settings.

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uBlock Origin for blocking advertisements everywhere, works with YouTube too. SponsorBlock for automatically skipping parts of YouTube videos with sponsored advertising.

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Libre Wolf with uBlock preinstalled could be what you need.

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I use Vivaldi + AdNauseam (though they have a built-in adblocker which I have disabled.)

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TL;DR: Brave Software has their HQ in California and they are they’re stealing data and selling it and giving “rights” to other people. Lawsuits are probably already being filed by multiple companies come monday.

And it’s not in an “our AI ‘read’ the page and is making their own”, it’s straight up taking entire sentences and almost entire paragraphs from places like wikipedia and selling them as original data without attribution(which is required by the license used by wikimedia/pedia)

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without attribution

no…? on every bit of info theres a source button next to it which links you to the original article, similar to what bing chat does.

Brave Software

brave search, not the browser.

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