324 points

Can you imagine the amount of corruptive influences and persuasions he is resisting?

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239 points

Pretty sure he has them blocked

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80 points

Though you may be right, I have a feeling that he is facing formidable opposition. That may include anything from social engineering to full on psyops.

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Bet he’s had people “happen” to bump into him IRL, and gets pull requests from bad actors that are very subtly trying to take the project in the wrong direction.

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66 points

Insightful point. And it does remind me of the corporate purchase of the Don’t care about cookies extension for Firefox (And the Simple Mobile Tools for Android). Luckily it was forked. https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies Open source FTW!
🙂 🐧

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31 points

Simple Mobile Tools was forked into “Fossify *” for anyone interested.

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60 points

There’s a reason uBlock Origin overtook Adblock Plus in popularity.

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43 points

The VLC guy turned down what a quick search is telling me was “several tens of millions” to show ads. I can’t even imagine what getting people to drop ublock would be worth.

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29 points

I wouldn’t blame him if he took it, but I greatly respect that he didn’t.

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32 points

Raymond Hill: “Get behind me, Google.”

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7 points

I hadn’t even thought about that. Thank you.

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2 points

What is the decentralised solution?

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7 points

There is and isn’t one. For the add-on itself, you just need forks and more forks. For the lists it pulls from, those are already decentralized, but you’re constantly going to deal with the issue of only the best are used and only the used are maintained and only the maintained are the best.

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249 points

And all the volunteers keeping those lists up-to-date.

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50 points

Yea it’s mainly those that do the work actually

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57 points

Still big kudos to Raymond for providing the foundations to make it all work too.

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11 points

Aren’t most lists available on other browsers and ad blockers? Unless Raymond created the format

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212 points

It’s kinda sad that without Mozilla, Raymond, the NoScript guys and TOR we would lose control over the internet pretty much immediately

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63 points

Kind of agree. Though there is pi-hole and several others. And there’s i2p, Freenet (now called Hyphanet) and GNUnet, and similar.

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58 points

Pi-hole is nice for devices that you don’t fully control. But it’s not enough, due to the fundamental limitations of DNS based blocking. If the ads and the content are hosted on the same domain, it can’t do anything.

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Also issues with links that get ads on top of them. You can still click them, you’ll get redirected to a blank page (because the ad gets DNS blocked), but with an adblocker you would’ve gone to the non-ad link.

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I definitely agree, although really a LOT of non-Linux/(IT) guys use Chrome, some even Edge, if on Windows

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IT person…

Uses chrome…

Both cannot be true friend, sorry. Your buddy is either a fake engineer or their main job isn’t IT.

If you really have friends in IT they haven’t used chrome or edge in a while, or their using the scripting bot for weekly progress reports to their boss, and they’re only using it for that…

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this is the stupidest comment I have read all week. chromenis fucking INFESTED in IT field. literally almost everyone uses it in my class, I’m a third year student in ict-engineering. literally everyone used it in my last school too, which was also IT related. if you actually believe that you must not really see other IT people outside the linux circles

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You don’t want to start this conversation, it’s a race to absolutism and purity tests at odds with one another. You say Firefox and someone comes in a calls you an idiot because you’re not using a fully FOSS browser or one that is inadequately hardened or one that supports the installation of content-management modules.

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3 points

You don’t work in the industry.

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8 points

Who is Raymond? Never heard the name

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3 points

What about controld for blocking at the dns level?

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-17 points

Not really anymore for Mozilla. They now get a lot of your private data and share em with their “business partners”

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I’m going to need some sources for that claim or I’m calling bullshit. I have never heard anyone claim that and I have seen absolutely zero evidence suggesting that.

edit:

these are the closest things I could find,

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/22/24109116/mozilla-ends-onerep-data-removal-partnership

https://videoweek.com/2022/02/10/mozilla-partners-with-meta-for-privacy-preserving-attribution/

and neither is bad. meta is a questionable choice for privacy cooperation but even in that it makes sure no one, not even meta, can read those match keys

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I believe a lot of info I got was from this video but it’s been a while so I’m not too sure: https://youtu.be/ugnOM2mzgNU

Also yea Firefox sends a lot of telemetry data and stuff, even if you disable the option in the menu. You have to go to the developer mode to remove all of it. Check “hardened Firefox”. If there is an hardened Firefox, then there is a non-hardened Firefox.

And then there are all the contracts and calls to Google’s server, for example for geolocation and stuff

And if you want the ultimate proof, everything is in their privacy policy https://www.mozilla.org/fr/privacy/firefox/ - just see how much data they collect, use and share, for better or for worse.

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183 points

If only, I know so many people who don’t bother with adblocking at all. I honestly have no idea how they use the Internet without going mad

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My kid discovered that he can hit the “report” button on the YouTube app on the TV to skip the ads immediately. So now every ad gets reported as “inappropriate”.

I’m proud of him.

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88 points

Tip: if you have an Android TV, you can install SmartTube as an alternative, privacy-friendly YouTube client. It has no ads and sponsorblock integration

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22 points

And as a better option, use an actual device instead of a short lifecycle planned obsolescence embedded android device on a “smart” tv.

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There’s also Playlet for Roku users, which is an Invidious client.

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2 points

thanks for the link.

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5 points

😀 👍

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3 points

I found out this trick when I eating dinner once at my local library. Oddly, it was a kid came up and saw I was watching YT videos. Showed me the tactic, and now I rely on it lol

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0 points

I just stay logged out of youtube. So far no ads and no nagware

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42 points

I’m of two minds about people not adblocking.

On one hand: Ads are gross noise pollution, and people are increasingly unaware of all the noise around them (or the noise they’re generating) largely because they’ve been passively trained to “tune out” ads. Also consumerism.

On the other hand: As long as there are a significant amount of people oblivious to the possibility of adblock, corporate ad mobsters and the other worst people in the world out there will largely leave those of us blocking their ads alone. If everyone ran adblockers, we’d definitely live in a world of WEI… and probably worse. So, maybe all those people are watching ads so that I don’t have to, as the YouTube thumbnails say.

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8 points

If sites wanted to run ads and host them locally without tracking that would be fine. But since they’re tracking users it’s essential to block them for privacy and security, and if someone isn’t then maybe they don’t understand the level of tracking involved. We need a better name than adblocking.

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2 points

I just don’t want to see ads.

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21 points

People just don’t know, I’ve been showing my wife the way little by little and she’s always blown away

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11 points

I’ve shown a colleague after seeing him browse an horrendous fantasy football website. He couldn’t believe the difference between before and after.

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13 points

Yeah, it’s shocking to see how many ads they jam in now. I felt so dirty.

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I also don’t understand it. But now I am wondering if we would not have had those “careless” (indifferent ? ignorant ?) millions of people not blocking ads then Google and others may have started pushing anti-adblock measures years earlier, no ?

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The way people talk about people who don’t block ads is so funny.

I understand and respect the reasons people choose to use blockers, but ads honestly just aren’t that problematic for me in practice and are easy to avoid and ignore.

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7 points

Ads have been known to contain drive-by malware. Even if you don’t mind seeing ads (which personally I don’t mind unless they’re very intrusive), an adblocker is important for online safety.

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Drive-by malware tends not to be zero-days though. I’ve stayed safe for decades just by keeping my software up to date.

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5 points

Ads are probably actually not that bad. But to me the massive stalking is unacceptable. So, uBO FTW!

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3 points

Of course; I’m just a lot more worried about the systemic problems of mass surveillance than any practical risk to me individially.

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2 points

You never visited the not-sheltered web…

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1 point

You say with such confidence. Is it so hard to imagine people can defend themselves with means other than ad blocking?

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