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Wearing a visible religious symbol while working for the public sector

This has nothing to do with conservatism, it’s about secularism, go to Turkey you’ll see the same thing, France too, it does not come from conservatives.

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In my country we allow everyone to wear whatever religious symbols, clothes, knives in public service workplaces since those things don’t affect how they do their work, though telling them they may not have those things will push them out of the jobs, or make them upset and less productive if they don’t leave

I see bans on religious symbols in the workplace as an attempt to reduce the number of people who value those symbols in those workplaces

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No, you see, it either comes from a liberal or a conservative.

There is no in-between, outliers, or overlap.

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Secularism isn’t about hiding religion, it’s about making it not matter.

And you’ll recall that the laws in Quebec around this carved out exemptions for certain religious and cultural signifiers.

That isn’t secularism.

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  1. Wearing a visible religious symbol while working for the public sector

This one seems reasonable, I’m sure it applies universally and fairly to all religions right?..right?

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Yes the nudists finally won a victory. All that garden of eden shame stuff is finally gone. Judges, teachers and cops no longer wear any garment whose purpose is modesty.

Shame and modesty are of course punishment from God because of Eve having eaten the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.

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If it’s referencing Bill 21 then yes and it only applies to public servants with power over other people.

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They are asking whether the prohibition affects Christians wearing cross and fish symbols, or only less popular religions’ symbols and styles

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Then yes, it does affect them as well, I don’t understand how people are so dumbfounded by that fact.

The only way Stats Can manages to make it seem like Quebec is more Christian than most provinces is by asking a biased question.

In the census:

`What is this person’s religion?

Indicate a specific denomination or religion even if this person is not currently a practising member of that group.`

Well, considering our Catholic history and the fact that children were pretty much all getting baptized until the 90s, what do you think is the answer to that?

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How about wearing a wedding ring on the left hand 3rd finger? Since the 9th century, that’s primarily been a strongly Christian tradition, therefore arguably a symbol of Christianity?

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I…don’t get it, are you guys sure (Not from Canada lol) a conservative wrote it? What’s the catch?

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No catch, but some people don’t like that it affects women who wear hijabs.

Frankly, I’m not even Quebecois and I agree with the law. If you’re going for your driver’s test and you’re obviously gay, you’re going to feel pretty nervous if your tester is wearing some fundie garb, whether it’s a hijab or a cross around their neck. Worse still if you’re going to apply for welfare.

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The catch is that the separation of state and religion is seen differently in Quebec compared to the rest of Canada. In Quebec everyone is made equal by getting religion out of public institutions (ex.: a judge can’t wear a religious sign), in Canada everyone is made equal by being allowed to ask for religious exemptions (ex.: turban wearers don’t have to wear a helmet to ride a motorcycle in Alberta).

Quebec passed a law to prevent certain public servants from wearing religious signs (teachers, judges, police officers…) and the rest of Canada didn’t agree with them.

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Since the day satire died November 6, 2016 The Beaverton has become a trusted news site.

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The Beaverton isn’t satire, it’s propaganda, and not even subtle bout it.

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This is fantastic, another great Beaverton article.

  1. Learning about ways to prevent being sexually assaulted (Saskatchewan)

Parents can still arrange for their children to take these sexual education courses privately, so it’s only the vulnerable, less protected children who will be left without the knowledge!

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Do people really need a paid, formal education to protect themselves from sexual assault?

In my experience, the victims of sexual assault tend to put their trust in the wrong people. It would be better to raise children to pick their friends more wisely.

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“It’s the victim’s fault for putting themselves in the wrong situations, and dressing like that”

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Your words, not mine.

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In my experience, the victims of sexual assault tend to put their trust in the wrong people.

This sentence is more horrifying the longer I look at it.

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Yeah, reality isn’t pretty.

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What on earth do you think those lessons are for? It almost certainly covers spotting signs from people you trust that might lead to abuse, and protecting yourself by removing yourself from the situation if you can.

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So… it’s only for a specific group of people who don’t have parents to teach them right from wrong?

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You have a lot of experience with victims of sexual assault?

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Seems like there might be a common denominator here…

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Yes. And they’re almost always people who have poor character judgement because their parents never taught them.

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