Rule of Google: if it works, kill it.

I know, I know, using Google apps isnโ€™t the best, but this was a perfectly good Podcast app with all the features you might want.

Apparently theyโ€™re moving everything over to YouTube Music, where a lot of the features of Google Podcasts arenโ€™t implemented yet.

Iโ€™ve moved over to an app from F-Droid.

197 points

I donโ€™t really understand how they consistently manage to screw things up. And they always say that the features are coming, but they never do.

Iโ€™m still bitter over Inbox.

I used to be excited about new things from Google. Tried to get into every beta, downloaded the newest released apps etc. But not anymore.

I just read about tasks being removed from Google Keep. Then the feature removal from nest hubs. Do they have a unified strategy at all? Or is it just the whims of a managerโ€™s daily musings that drive what development does?

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122 points

Itโ€™s a company culture thing. Youโ€™re not rewarded for maintaining or finishing products. You are rewarded for starting new ones.

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Youโ€™re not rewarded for maintaining or finishing products.

No kidding.

It is 2024, and here is your yearly reminder that you still canโ€™t create a new folder/label in the official Gmail Android app despite the online documentation implying that you can.

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48 points

Android users literally run their lives out of Google Calendar. Think you can share your calendar with a friend from your phone? Think again. Itโ€™s back to the 10 year old desktop interface for you!

Oh youโ€™re not at home at your computer, well, try using the desktop version of Google Calandar on your phoneโ€™s browser. I dare you.

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7 points

On the mail side:

Reporting phishing isnโ€™t something an iOS user would ever do. Desktop please!

Filters? Whatโ€™re those? To the desktop, come on!

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I live in Silicon Valley and this is a standard thing here. Companies measure your success as an employee based on โ€œimpactโ€. Launching a new thing that tens or hundreds of millions of people like and use is big impact. Deleting old code to reduce the overall complexity of the system is also seen as having a lot of impact - old code has potential security risks, privacy / data storage risks, may require legacy frameworks that arenโ€™t supported any more, etc.

However, maintaining an existing system isnโ€™t always seen as impactful, unless itโ€™s a major system or needs some large bug fixes for issues that affect a significant number of users, or that affect paid customers.

Sometimes, apps are built by a small team (say 1-4 people) during a hackathon. Eventually, that team has to move on to other work, and nobody else wants to pick up maintenance of the system they built. This is usually the reason why smaller products die.

You also need to keep in mind that if youโ€™re using a free service, youโ€™re not the customer. The customer is whoever is paying for the service on your behalf - for example, advertisers, paid users, etc. Generally, time spent improving the app will be spent on improving the experience for paid users rather than free ones. New features in systems like Gmail, Google Drive, etc mostly get built because paid users ask for them. This also means that apps that donโ€™t drive revenue (like Google Reader, etc) have very light staffing.

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Former Googlers have always said that the big issue with sustaining products at Google is that it is highly competitive and Google rewards new products, not sustaining current products. So, most people want to continuously join/form teams for new products leaving little resources for current products. This has been the way since Google started becoming a large company โ€“ so decades now.

This makes sense as to why Google puts out applications that seemingly do the same thing as something else but ever so slightly different and why there are sometimes cool new products that die on the vine years later and if there was no slightly different thing available it just dies or if there is then there is a half-assed migration.

In the Reddit AMA the Google Home team answered a few questions and only the very few softball ones. One interesting comment they made though is that because of the Nest products and generally new products, they believe it is a challenge to support the older hardware, including integrating Google and Nest hardware, so basically you get features removed to make it all work. Of course, there was the promise and supposed internal roadmap that puts these features back eventually, but weโ€™ve seen that kind of promise over and over from Google and it rarely happens. They are trying to replace Assistant with their Gemini AI which you can do now but it comes with even less features (but parity is coming โ€“ they promise!..one day!). Is that parity with current Assistant which seems to be supporting less and less and working worse?

Google is losing a lot of consumer trust in products I think and itโ€™s going to get worse for them as this trickles to the general consumer-base.

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My god, the assistant, yes. After catching up with Siri it was actually useful. And now it seems all it does is plop whatever you say into a Google search. And since they killed that, too, wellโ€ฆ

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7 points

I think deep down, everybody, including Google, realizes this all ends with them retaining their customer s solely through the blackmail they have accumulated over the years.

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22 points

Iโ€™m still pissed over the loss of inbox.

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They have an agenda, which isnโ€™t aligned with your agenda. They only care about profitability, so they kill any projects not supporting that goal. Some projects are created to gather specific data sets about users, and the project is shut down when the data is captured, regardless of how popular the project was. They are always doing something with an ulterior motive. Once you understand that then you wonโ€™t be mystified by their decisions anymore.

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They only care about profitability

Itโ€™s not even profitability. Itโ€™s about what looks good on a resume.

New projects look good. Maintaining old projects doesnโ€™t.

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Iโ€™ve heard a theory that says all the apps and services they make only have the purpose of collecting data. Sort of like limited time experiments. Once they get all they need from one of them they kill it and move on.

Sometimes they pretend to roll a dead service into another product in order to drive customers to that product but itโ€™s done only in name, by a completely unrelated team and with only a vaguely related feature subset.

It would certainly explain a lot.

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9 points

Iโ€™m not ready to be reminded of the loss of inbox

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I always felt Google is just a collection of startups each doing their own thing, and they live and die like startups, too. Thereโ€™s barely any overall strategy, and whenever they actually try to do something strategic, the result sucks (e.g. G+)

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9 points

Thereโ€™s still no better email client than inbox. It was so fucking good

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7 points

Man, Inbox was so good. I still start typing โ€œinboxโ€ into the address bar to get to my emails.

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103 points

Try AntennaPod, itโ€™s on F-Droid

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25 points

One of the best apps on any platform

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7 points

For the big products, I think Google Assistant will be next followed by barely doing anything further with Android Auto until it dies a few years after GAS starts getting pushed out while it probably either wonโ€™t or will stop supporting โ€˜legacyโ€™ Android Auto apps, so AA dies โ€˜because developers arenโ€™t supporting apps anymore โ€“ totally not our fault and weโ€™re sorry to see this happen.โ€™

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16 points

One of my favorite podcast app.

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4 points

Grabbed AntennaPod from the Play Store. Itโ€™s been a perfect replacement.

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3 points

Iโ€™m kind of into Podscast Addict. Not sure how it compares, but its pretty good.

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Itโ€™s not open source

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Ah ok

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82 points

R.I.P.

https://killedbygoogle.com

Tombstone 2018 - 2024 Google Podcasts

Killed 26 days ago, Google Podcasts was a podcast hosting platform and an Android podcast listening app. It was almost 6 years old.

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Pixel Pass

Killed 8 months ago, Pixel Pass was a program that allowed users to pay a monthly charge for their Pixel phone and upgrade immediately after two years. It was almost 2 years old.

Well, that seems particularly scummy.

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11 points

They did allow users to upgrade once first.

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8 points

Thatโ€™s good. The article linked to by the graveyard made it seem like they didnโ€™t.

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4 points

Indeed.What a rip-off! :(

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24 points

Tombstone 2030-2032 Google Pacemaker

Killed 8 years from now, Google Pacemaker was an IoT pacemaker for patients with heart arrhythmia. All devices were remotely deactivated after 2 years.

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Tombstone 2030-2032 Google Pacemaker

Killed 8 years from now, Google Pacemaker was an IoT pacemaker for patients with heart arrhythmia. All devices were remotely deactivated after 2 years.

๐Ÿคฏ ๐Ÿ˜‚

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How else are they gonna half ass implement that into youtube and make that shit bloated af.

It has long form content, Tiktok clone, Main music delivery system, Twitch clone, And now, Podcasts.

๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ

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Going to be called YouTube Podcasts. Soon to be spun off into Google Wallet + Podcasts, then to be renamed Podcasts Pay, then Pay Podcasts, then Google Chrome with Podcasts.

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8 points

Google Nest Home Chromecast TV with Podcasts Premium+

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3 points

With different tiers of subscription.

This sounds unfortunately real. Insanity.

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I donโ€™t have YouTube Pro or whatever its called now and when I listen to music on my Google home it plays an ad after ever song. Since I have switched to Pihole and blocked googles DNS servers the only ads I get are to buy premium YouTube which I assume are hardcoded into something somewhere.

We better be careful, with Googles track record they will be getting rid of YouTube soon and rolling it into whatever they are calling their Skype clone nowadays.

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We better be careful, with Googles track record they will be getting rid of YouTube soon and rolling it into whatever they are calling their Skype clone nowadays.

I think that five products are reasonably safe from Googleโ€™s euthanasia project:

  • YouTube
  • Google Search
  • Chrome
  • โ€œcoreโ€ Android system + Play Store (it counts as one)
  • AdSense

The common factor between them is advertisement: vulturing on your personal info (Chrome, GS, Android), serving you ads (YT, GS), ensuring that advertisers must pay the vassal tax to advertise (AdSense), and walling you in ways that you canโ€™t fight back (Chrome, Android+Play Store).

Google stopped being a technology business a long time ago; pragmatically nowadays itโ€™s simply an advertisement company that dabbles on tech.

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Google stopped being a technology business a long time ago; pragmatically nowadays itโ€™s simply an advertisement company that dabbles on tech

Theyโ€™ve primarily been an ad company ever since they acquired DoubleClick in 2008.

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5 points

Gmail and Gsuite pretty safe too.

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7 points

It seems like their trying to roll everything into the over media app and subscription

Kind of makes sense, all their other apps are pretty fragmented and crappy.

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4 points

It also has games now.

I donโ€™t think itโ€™s rolled out to a lot of people. No one at work can see them except me, but my Google app has games that I can bring up.

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68 points

I just ignore any new Google service these days. Unreliability isnโ€™t even as much of a concern as privacy.

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Google music, Google+, Google Spaces, they even killed Google Cache recently - which was a fantastic way to get around my workโ€™s brain-dead decision to block the company (including IT) from reaching Reddit.

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4 points

You would think with the further advancement of humanity, with or without technology we would have more reason to cache and archive things out there whether itโ€™s by the written word of paper, the internet or via our phone cameras.

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Maybe try Redlib for accessing Reddit. You can also use LibRedirect to automatically redirect Reddit links.

Alternatively, use this guide to create a Cloudflare proxy for any website you want to visit that is blocked

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