cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/14778555

@MaxBlumenthal

“Democracy is on the ballot”


@DrJillStein

BREAKING: Jill Stein and her Campaign Manager and Deputy Campaign Manager, Jason Call and Kelly Merrill-Cayer, have been arrested at Washington University in St. Louis while supporting a protest against WashU’s ties to the war on Gaza. Video from @KallieECox


Direct video link: https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1784410882627227648/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/0RbEXrPU8hvKoqwU.mp4

Source: https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1784440127734812900

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While running for president in 2016, Jill Stein attended a gala in Moscow to promote RT “News”, the Russian propaganda machine that is banned in several countries.

There’s, she was photographed seated at a table with Putin and his entourage, as well as Michael Flynn.

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I voted Jill Stein in 2016. My vote didn’t matter as I’m in Washington state and we went for Clinton anyway. I was a low information voter at the time and have since resolved to pay way more attention to things like this.

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Sorry, but I gotta ask what happened with your typing in that last sentence. “There’s, she was —”

I think you tried to say “There she was —” But you somehow added three unnecessary characters.

I’m in no way going against what you wrote, just can’t understand what happened.

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She was there on her own dime, attempting a diplomatic effort to get Russia to curb its violent tactics. Contrary to mainstream belief in America, this has greater potential to bring about actual peace than funding proxy wars in Ukraine and Yemen. The fact she actually managed to be seated with Putin long enough for this picture to be taken is a testament to her legitimacy as a leader, and as a diplomat.

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44 points

Quite funny to use Jill Stein for this considering she’s done her bit selling us out.

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6 points

ootl, what bit?

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25 points
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14 points

RFK Jr. I’d be surprised if JFK Jr, a corpse, ran for president.

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12 points

3rd party candidates can’t get to 270. Voting for them technically helps trump.

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18 points

Vote blue for one day, organize for 364.

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How’s that working out for us? How do you see it actually working for us?

Even before Trump, no one could break through the stranglehold the two party system has. There’s an entire segment of people who are neither centrist nor conservative who have been and will continue to be without a voice. Those people will continue to vote blue/centrist because it’s better than the alternative. Or they will continue to vote red/conservative because there’s no alternative.

The closest we’ve seen to a viable third party candidate was Perot over 30 years ago with 19% of the vote. And you could argue he got by on his “outsider” charm much like trump, rather than any decent ideology.

Keep money and PACs and lobbying in the mix and there will be no change. Keep voting in blue/red and we keep the money flowing… but there’s no conceivable way to vote them out.

I get that in this moment in time it feels like life or death for democracy and it’s anybody but Trump, but let’s imagine that’s all behind us and the threat of Trump is gone. What now? How do we actually get representation instead of two parties run by and for corporations? Because nothing anyone has done in my lifetime so far has made a dent.

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You can give up if you’d rather. Or you can look at what America in particular and the world in general used to be and take the wins the left has won and build off them, while learning from the losses.

Unfortunately, one of those lessons is never actually trust liberals, but that’s what the organizing is for.

And if our efforts can’t halt the oh so obvious disaster… Well, revolutions don’t happen when people are happy.

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Na

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They could if people like you didn’t exist

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10 points

Bruh she’s not even the green candidate this year, literally her only political relevance is bougie white leftists bending over backwards to the point of folding at the belly button to be defensive knobs about having voted for her in 2016 because “don’t vote shame me with alarmism, they wouldn’t ever take away abortion rights you DNC shill!”

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Shameless

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