Violence erupted at the University of California, Los Angeles after pro-Israeli counter-demonstrators attacked a pro-Palestinian campus encampment. Bubbling tensions on the campus boiled over following the alleged breach of a “buffer zone” between the rival groups.

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“Law enforcement simply stood at the edge of the lawn and refused to budge as we screamed for their help,” UC Divest at LA, a group involved in the encampment, said in a statement.

Fucking disgusting

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ACAB.

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Well trained by the IDF, they act exactly the same as when settlers attack Palestinians. They’ll only intervene if you fight back.

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I guess since the police have shown they are not willing to protect the people, the people must take the responsibility of their safety and security upon themselves.

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But we mustn’t have evil guns!! The police will protect us, I’m certain of it!

Liberals will never, ever prevail against the fascists unless they pull their collective head out of their collective ass. News flash kids: The fascists are perfectly willing to use violence. And they know you are not.

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So let me make sure I understand your point: the pro-Palestinian protestors should have opened fire and killed the counter-protestors?

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What’s wrong with self-defense?

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News Flash: it’s possible to want sensible gun control laws AND meaningful police reform. Most of us are capable of holding more the one thought in our head, capable of setting more than one goal, and that doesn’t make us idiots or hypocrites. Validating their violence with more violence would make us hypocrites (and idiots) and is not the only means of achieving our goals.

Edit: are you seriously suggesting that the protesters should be armed?! or is this just an attempt to muddy the waters by bringing up a conversation about gun control?

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Guns being present would have only resulted in many MANY deaths. That’s what you want?

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I have seen a lot of shalafi’s comments in the past and I think the answer to that question is “yes.”

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Nah. You have to do it right, that’s all. Everyone mudt show up in plate armor open carrying fighting rifles. This is what the right has done, and more importantly it also has worked for the left (see: protecting drag queens from right wing protests). You don’t instigate shit. Just stand there. If you’re heavily armed, out in the open, and peaceful, the cops and counter protests can’t make up an excuse to start shit, and they are extremely unmotivated to do so.

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I want people to use their right to defend themselves instead of licking boots.

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If it’s the attackers, then yeah, thats the point. Guns are a deterrent.

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This is an uninstructive conversation. We do not need this sort of shit stirring about this topic because it is important.

Do not show up to a protest with a gun either alone or unannounced. Thats just Rittenhouse behaviour. Be a part of a militia or with some group, and contact the event organizers before arriving. They’ll probably tell your group to wait in a near by location and to be called when needed.

Also getting beat up is the point of these protests. Columbia unreasonably responded with violence against their own students and faculty. It was a total blunder that they made habitually. Making them fascists drop their masks for everyone to see is the goal here.

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Based

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Ask Mark Hughes about what happens when you show up armed to a protest.

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What would have the police and the media done after that?

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Michael Reinoehl killed a fash, then the police executed him in a suburban neighborhood. There’s no scenario where a leftwing person kills a fascist in self defense and their police buddies say it was a good shooting.

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On brand.

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Supporters of Israeli genocide commit violence.
I’m shocked.
Shocked and appalled.
This is so out of character for genocidalists.

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zionists turned into genocidalists. it all starts with God.

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I was sat down reading this and still ended up on the floor in pure shock.

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Jewish Federation Los Angeles meanwhile blamed the university’s chancellor for allowing “an environment to be created over many months that has made students feel unsafe”.

The group demanded that the encampment be cleared and that UCLA meet leaders of the Jewish community.

Fucking hell, this is such a callous response. In any other situation, the group representing the side that just had masked vigilantes attack peaceful demonstrators would make amends. “These people don’t represent our movement. We disavow them and what they stand for.” And so on.

I see they’re taking a page from Israel’s book: refuse to apologize, defend unprovoked violence, and blame the victims on top of everything else.

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No wonder anti-semitism is ramping up. The JFLA not helping themselves with that one.

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“We’re allowed to beat you if you question our genocide” is certainly a hell of a tagline

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Your school’s protests against violence is making the school unsafe and therefore it’s the schools fault for the violence that falls upon it. That’s basically what they said.

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Lol, it’s not my fault I’m beating you in the face. It’s the school’s fault I’m beating you in the face.

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meet leaders of the Jewish community.

Never leaders of the palestinian community…

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All these police attacks on Pro-Palestine rallies are just bringing more attention that would have faded away.

And the unprovoked violent attacks will cause more people to start to question the Israel war and the US support of it. People will start to wonder why supporting normal Palestine people is an idea to attack peaceful rallies and to take away the right to protest.

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All these police attacks on Pro-Palestine rallies

In this case they weren’t attacked by Police.

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Or the police weren’t wearing their uniforms???

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I’m willing to accept that as a possibility but I’ve seen it argued the other way too. That since the Pro-Palestinian side hasn’t been getting pushed down at UCLA like other places “something” needed to happen in order to increase visibility.

In fairness the various University of California campuses have been pretty laid back with these protests to the point that they’d refused to call in Law Enforcement at all on the LA campus until things got out of hand last night. Even then it seems that Law Enforcement slow rolled their response.

At this point who the hell knows; could be some of Column A and a little of Column B.

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You wont hear mainstream media question why the police retracted a short moment before pro-Israeli thugs stormed in the encampment and attack the peaceful protesters, they came back in to only arrest the pro-palestine protesters. the establishment has payed to end the protests and establishment media are only parading the side of the story the have been paid for to.

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Lemmy needs a payed vs paid bot

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They sealed the deck with tar to prevent pesky protestors from leaking in.

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So now I am left with no sources and no idea if it is a real thing or not. One thing twitter x has for it is the readers context.

However idk if the same would work in relatively one sided isolated env

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